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What would have been the right move for Dugan here, according to ICE? Can a judge legally detain a defendant after a pre-trial hearing on the basis of "there a
by Centigonal 1y ago
What would have been the right move for Dugan here, according to ICE?
Can a judge legally detain a defendant after a pre-trial hearing on the basis of "there are some agents asking about you for unrelated reasons?"
- eterps 1y agoMy thoughts exactly.
- crooked-v 1y agoIt's not related to legal proceedings, so, no. The point of the arrest is to pressure judges into illegally doing it anyway.
- NoMoreNicksLeft 1y agoJudges have what most people would consider insane levels of legitimate power while sitting on the bench itself inside the courtroom. Just outside the door, those powers are not quite so intense, but he can have you thrown in a cage just for not doing what he says, and he can command nearly anything. He could certainly demand that someone not leave the courtroom if he felt like doing so, and there would be no real remedy even if he did so for illegitimate reasons. Perhaps a censure months later.
- rolph 1y agoyou need a warrant and established PC, and you need to request administrative recess of court in session. You cant stay in the framework of US law while walking into court and expect a judge to transfer custody of a defendant because you say so.
- dfxm12 1y agoAccording to ICE? "Comply with whatever we say". It's obvious that the current admin is operating autocratically, outside the law.
- lliamander 1y agoThe right move would have been simply to not help Flores-Ruiz evade ICE.
- mulmen 1y agoAllegedly.
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- lliamander 1y agoI should probably clarify - I don't mean to presume to know if the judge did it, I just mean I agree with the above poster's qualifier.
- marcusverus 1y agoHe showed the defendant out a side door to help him avoid ICE, who were waiting at the main door. > What would have been the right move for Dugan here, according to ICE? The right move was to not violate the law by taking steps which were intended to help the defendant evade ICE.
- Centigonal 1y agoI was not aware of this accusation when I made my original comment >Milwaukee County Circuit Court Judge Hannah Dugan is accused of escorting the man and his lawyer out of her courtroom through the jury door last week after learning that immigration authorities were seeking his arrest. The man was taken into custody outside the courthouse after agents chased him on foot. This might change the calculus.