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Being a judge might just be circumstantial (sensational?). The arrest may be because of the person's personal actions; not their professional actions as a judge

Being a judge might just be circumstantial (sensational?). The arrest may be because of the person's personal actions; not their professional actions as a judge.

JKCalhoun 1y ago
But I imagine arresting a judge requires an extra level of discretion. At the very least it's going to be a PR problem if it is found to be unwarranted.
- typeofhuman 1y ago
  > But I imagine arresting a judge requires an extra level of discretion. This creates an air of a two-tiered justice system. No one is above the law.
teachrdan 1y ago
> Being a judge might just be circumstantial (sensational?). The arrest may be because of the person's personal actions; not their professional actions as a judge. I'm sure you're an intelligent person, but this response seems almost deliberately obtuse. This is clearly an act by the current administration to intimidate the judiciary. It is impossible to separate the unprecedented act of arresting a sitting judge for failing to arrest someone on behalf of ICE from the administration's illegal (according to the Supreme Court) sending immigrants to a prison in El Salvador without due process.
- like_any_other 1y ago
  > arresting a sitting judge for failing to arrest someone If the article is accurate, he was arrested for making false statements in a personal capacity, not for failing to act.
  - teachrdan 1y ago
    You misread the article, or perhaps failed to see the update. This is not "making false statements in a personal capacity." The judge was arrested for failing to do ICE's job for them. That is, ICE wanted to arrest someone and the judge didn't stop them from walking away once ICE had left their courtroom.
    - like_any_other 1y ago
      > After directing the arrest team to the chief judge’s office, investigators say, Dugan returned to the courtroom and was heard saying words to the effect of “wait, come with me” before ushering Flores-Ruiz and his lawyer through a jury door into a non-public area of the courthouse. The action was unusual, the affidavit says, because “only deputies, juries, court staff, and in-custody defendants being escorted by deputies used the back jury door. Defense attorneys and defendants who were not in custody never used the jury door.” You're right, I didn't see this update. And while this is indeed not "making false statements" (although it does not rule that out), it's a far cry from "not doing ICE's job for them".

Being a judge might just be circumstantial (sensational?). The arrest may be because of the person's personal actions; not their professional actions as a judge.

JKCalhoun 1y ago

But I imagine arresting a judge requires an extra level of discretion. At the very least it's going to be a PR problem if it is found to be unwarranted.

typeofhuman 1y ago
> But I imagine arresting a judge requires an extra level of discretion. This creates an air of a two-tiered justice system. No one is above the law.

teachrdan 1y ago

> Being a judge might just be circumstantial (sensational?). The arrest may be because of the person's personal actions; not their professional actions as a judge. I'm sure you're an intelligent person, but this response seems almost deliberately obtuse. This is clearly an act by the current administration to intimidate the judiciary. It is impossible to separate the unprecedented act of arresting a sitting judge for failing to arrest someone on behalf of ICE from the administration's illegal (according to the Supreme Court) sending immigrants to a prison in El Salvador without due process.

like_any_other 1y ago
> arresting a sitting judge for failing to arrest someone If the article is accurate, he was arrested for making false statements in a personal capacity, not for failing to act.
- teachrdan 1y ago
  You misread the article, or perhaps failed to see the update. This is not "making false statements in a personal capacity." The judge was arrested for failing to do ICE's job for them. That is, ICE wanted to arrest someone and the judge didn't stop them from walking away once ICE had left their courtroom.
  - like_any_other 1y ago
    > After directing the arrest team to the chief judge’s office, investigators say, Dugan returned to the courtroom and was heard saying words to the effect of “wait, come with me” before ushering Flores-Ruiz and his lawyer through a jury door into a non-public area of the courthouse. The action was unusual, the affidavit says, because “only deputies, juries, court staff, and in-custody defendants being escorted by deputies used the back jury door. Defense attorneys and defendants who were not in custody never used the jury door.” You're right, I didn't see this update. And while this is indeed not "making false statements" (although it does not rule that out), it's a far cry from "not doing ICE's job for them".