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This seems lite on facts. Even if I wanted to arrest a sitting judge, it would have to be an act of gross malfeasance to motivate me to even consider arrest. Th

This seems lite on facts. Even if I wanted to arrest a sitting judge, it would have to be an act of gross malfeasance to motivate me to even consider arrest. The only thing I can think of… Is, if the judge swore under oath, affidavit, or something like that, that she did not do something when in fact that she did. But even then… If Patel does not come back with some thing on that level or better, then this was a horrible farce.

_mlbt 1y ago
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- amanaplanacanal 1y ago
  Which crime is that exactly? It can't be aiding illegal immigration if the immigrant is already inside the US.
  - boroboro4 1y ago
    I thought so too, but turned out I'm wrong: > Key prohibited actions under 8 U.S.C. § 1324 include: > Bringing in or Attempting to Bring in Aliens: Assisting a non-citizen to enter or try to enter the U.S. at a place other than an official port of entry. > Transporting: Moving or attempting to move a non-citizen within the U.S., knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that the non-citizen has entered or remains in the U.S. unlawfully, and acting in furtherance of their unlawful presence. > Harboring or Concealing: Concealing, harboring, or shielding (or attempting to do so) a non-citizen from detection, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that the non-citizen has entered or remains in the U.S. unlawfully. "Harboring" generally means providing shelter but can also include other forms of assistance that help the person evade immigration authorities. > Encouraging or Inducing: Encouraging or inducing a non-citizen to come to, enter, or reside in the U.S., knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such entry or residence is or will be in violation of law. > Conspiracy or Aiding/Abetting: Engaging in a conspiracy to commit, or aiding or abetting the commission of, any of the above acts. TBH those are some quite terrible laws =(
    - _mlbt 1y ago
      Why are they terrible? I do not understand why people have a right to enter the country illegally and stay without consequences, nor why people should be able to assist them without consequences. What sane argument is there for that? That is just anarchy and madness.
      - boroboro4 1y ago
        I don't have issues with (immigration) laws targeting undocumented immigrants. I don't have issues with laws targeting organization of illegal immigration. I do have issues with laws targeting regular people knowing/not knowing legal status of other people in day to day life. Those laws are vogue and overly broad and constrain my rights as a citizen. I should be able to transport anyone, regardless to my knowledge of their immigration status, and shouldn't be turned into participant of the immigration enforcement. These laws are too similar to "turn every jew you know" to me, and should be forbidden. I come from a country with a history of delation and I think it's wrong. Demanding this is very distant from anarchy and madness, and I would argue current state is too close to police state.
jldugger 1y ago
> Even if I wanted to arrest a sitting judge, it would have to be an act of gross malfeasance to motivate me to even consider arrest. This logic projects rationality onto an administration that does not merit such assumptions.
- mycatisblack 1y ago
  Psychological projection is a very apt choice, thank you for that. I’ve read a lot of people referring to “sanewashing” when the media tries to explain the mechanism behind the madness but this captures it much better.
  - jldugger 1y ago
    It's a kind of fundamental error we make as humans: we judge the actions of other peoples by the standard of how we would behave, rather than the other person's past conduct or personality. And then we often work backwards from the action we see, guessing at what would have to be true for _us_ to act that way.
  - jibal 1y ago
    That's not what sanewashing is. It's when the media hides someone's insanity, often out of a misplaced notion of "balance". This applied especially to their failing to talk about all the crazy stuff Trump said at his rallies, and their constantly reframing of the unhinged things Trump said in much more sane terms. https://www.merriam-webster.com/slang/sanewashing https://www.merriam-webster.com/slang/sanewashing
    - mycatisblack 1y ago
      You are correct. Let me rephrase my statement: what I see attributed to sanewashing falls in the projection category.
      - jibal 1y ago
        Some of it may be, but I think most of it is whitewashing driven by media corporate policy.

_mlbt 1y ago

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amanaplanacanal 1y ago
Which crime is that exactly? It can't be aiding illegal immigration if the immigrant is already inside the US.
- boroboro4 1y ago
  I thought so too, but turned out I'm wrong: > Key prohibited actions under 8 U.S.C. § 1324 include: > Bringing in or Attempting to Bring in Aliens: Assisting a non-citizen to enter or try to enter the U.S. at a place other than an official port of entry. > Transporting: Moving or attempting to move a non-citizen within the U.S., knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that the non-citizen has entered or remains in the U.S. unlawfully, and acting in furtherance of their unlawful presence. > Harboring or Concealing: Concealing, harboring, or shielding (or attempting to do so) a non-citizen from detection, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that the non-citizen has entered or remains in the U.S. unlawfully. "Harboring" generally means providing shelter but can also include other forms of assistance that help the person evade immigration authorities. > Encouraging or Inducing: Encouraging or inducing a non-citizen to come to, enter, or reside in the U.S., knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such entry or residence is or will be in violation of law. > Conspiracy or Aiding/Abetting: Engaging in a conspiracy to commit, or aiding or abetting the commission of, any of the above acts. TBH those are some quite terrible laws =(
  - _mlbt 1y ago
    Why are they terrible? I do not understand why people have a right to enter the country illegally and stay without consequences, nor why people should be able to assist them without consequences. What sane argument is there for that? That is just anarchy and madness.
    - boroboro4 1y ago
      I don't have issues with (immigration) laws targeting undocumented immigrants. I don't have issues with laws targeting organization of illegal immigration. I do have issues with laws targeting regular people knowing/not knowing legal status of other people in day to day life. Those laws are vogue and overly broad and constrain my rights as a citizen. I should be able to transport anyone, regardless to my knowledge of their immigration status, and shouldn't be turned into participant of the immigration enforcement. These laws are too similar to "turn every jew you know" to me, and should be forbidden. I come from a country with a history of delation and I think it's wrong. Demanding this is very distant from anarchy and madness, and I would argue current state is too close to police state.

jldugger 1y ago

> Even if I wanted to arrest a sitting judge, it would have to be an act of gross malfeasance to motivate me to even consider arrest. This logic projects rationality onto an administration that does not merit such assumptions.

mycatisblack 1y ago
Psychological projection is a very apt choice, thank you for that. I’ve read a lot of people referring to “sanewashing” when the media tries to explain the mechanism behind the madness but this captures it much better.
- jldugger 1y ago
  It's a kind of fundamental error we make as humans: we judge the actions of other peoples by the standard of how we would behave, rather than the other person's past conduct or personality. And then we often work backwards from the action we see, guessing at what would have to be true for _us_ to act that way.
- jibal 1y ago
  That's not what sanewashing is. It's when the media hides someone's insanity, often out of a misplaced notion of "balance". This applied especially to their failing to talk about all the crazy stuff Trump said at his rallies, and their constantly reframing of the unhinged things Trump said in much more sane terms. https://www.merriam-webster.com/slang/sanewashing https://www.merriam-webster.com/slang/sanewashing
  - mycatisblack 1y ago
    You are correct. Let me rephrase my statement: what I see attributed to sanewashing falls in the projection category.
    - jibal 1y ago
      Some of it may be, but I think most of it is whitewashing driven by media corporate policy.