Sapir whorf doesnt negate the possibility of forming the same ideas using more primitive constructs. The ability of any language speaker being able to learn th

Sapir whorf doesnt negate the possibility of forming the same ideas using more primitive constructs. The ability of any language speaker being able to learn the same mathematics or computer program goes to show that. Id contest that spoken/written language is even necessary for thinking. At the very least, there is a large corpus of thought which does not require it (at some point humans spoke no or very little words, and its their thought/intention to communicate that drove the formation of words/language), so its silly to me to think of learned language as some base model of thought.