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At 60 mph, it would take 5 hours to go 300 miles. I do that much driving in a day maybe once or twice a year. It's not a big deal.

Jtsummers 1y ago
This truck only offers 150 miles in the base model. That's the problem. If you consider the round trip distance, unless you have a chance to charge it at your destination or reliably on your route it gives you about a 60-70 mile practical range from home. And that's if you do a there-and-back with no detours. GP is pointing out that anything less than 300 is not practical, and they're not wrong. 150 miles, in particular, is just too low to be used for anything other than a basic commuter vehicle. It's useless on highways (try driving I-70 through KS in this thing) and if you change job sites more than once, you're likely to run out of range in one work day. Traveling between cities is going to be unreliable if you're not able to stop and charge at your destination. Live in Colorado Springs and want to go to Denver? You probably have to stop and charge before coming home.
- jerlam 1y ago
  The short range limitation will also be amplified when carrying a lot of cargo or towing.
  - red-iron-pine 1y ago
    aye was my thought. lifting things will drain it faster. we're also talking in raw miles, straight line, no hills, decent weather. I'm in a hilly city that gets to -30C on the regular, and these factors could turn 150 miles in to 75 pretty fast.
- lm28469 1y ago
  > 60-70 mile practical range from home. That's 2x the average daily distance driven, 4x if you do it back and forth. This is more like a cheap utility truck for day to day things, not a thing you want to travel in for hours at 65mph
- mixmastamyk 1y ago
  Visit a charger every hundred miles for the couple of days a year you need to. Otherwise, enjoy the cumulative time savings. If you have other reqs by all means, pay up. But don’t force the cost on everyone else.
constantcrying 1y ago
That calculation does not work at all. 300 miles (presumably WLTP) range has nothing to with 300 miles of actual driving. Additionally range dictates how often you have to charge. This does not matter if you can easily charge at home, but when you have to do it at public infrastructure it is obviously a hassle, which is increased with lack of range.

Jtsummers 1y ago

This truck only offers 150 miles in the base model. That's the problem. If you consider the round trip distance, unless you have a chance to charge it at your destination or reliably on your route it gives you about a 60-70 mile practical range from home. And that's if you do a there-and-back with no detours. GP is pointing out that anything less than 300 is not practical, and they're not wrong. 150 miles, in particular, is just too low to be used for anything other than a basic commuter vehicle. It's useless on highways (try driving I-70 through KS in this thing) and if you change job sites more than once, you're likely to run out of range in one work day. Traveling between cities is going to be unreliable if you're not able to stop and charge at your destination. Live in Colorado Springs and want to go to Denver? You probably have to stop and charge before coming home.

jerlam 1y ago
The short range limitation will also be amplified when carrying a lot of cargo or towing.
- red-iron-pine 1y ago
  aye was my thought. lifting things will drain it faster. we're also talking in raw miles, straight line, no hills, decent weather. I'm in a hilly city that gets to -30C on the regular, and these factors could turn 150 miles in to 75 pretty fast.
lm28469 1y ago
> 60-70 mile practical range from home. That's 2x the average daily distance driven, 4x if you do it back and forth. This is more like a cheap utility truck for day to day things, not a thing you want to travel in for hours at 65mph
mixmastamyk 1y ago
Visit a charger every hundred miles for the couple of days a year you need to. Otherwise, enjoy the cumulative time savings. If you have other reqs by all means, pay up. But don’t force the cost on everyone else.

constantcrying 1y ago

That calculation does not work at all. 300 miles (presumably WLTP) range has nothing to with 300 miles of actual driving. Additionally range dictates how often you have to charge. This does not matter if you can easily charge at home, but when you have to do it at public infrastructure it is obviously a hassle, which is increased with lack of range.