I agree with you but FWIW I think a lot of folks on this site want HN to be Reddit. I think a lot of people these days use HN as another big subreddit and modul

I agree with you but FWIW I think a lot of folks on this site want HN to be Reddit. I think a lot of people these days use HN as another big subreddit and modulate their content and voting behavior on that basis. If anything, I think a lot of people left Reddit because they disapproved of the API changes and began to use HN the same way they used Reddit because they felt that HN's ownership aligned with their ideas of how to run a site better. The draw to them is the different ownership not different decorum or voting behaviors. If anything, the decorum and voting behavior on Reddit is probably their expectation for engaging with upvote-based social media. You can see this behavior leaking into a lot of other threads on this site, not just the political ones. I don't flag these stories, but I do think this "fight" is one we'll eventually lose. The majority of users here want to use HN as another Reddit. They don't really care about what made HN different. As such I think it's time for us to accept the new normal. Our party is over.