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It literally works seamlessly though? Just converts to MMS and you don't notice outside the "liked BLABLABLA" sort of messages that trickle in without the imess

It literally works seamlessly though? Just converts to MMS and you don't notice outside the "liked BLABLABLA" sort of messages that trickle in without the imessage emoji system.

AlecSchueler 2y ago
I don't think seamless integration with MMS is enough to outweigh being different/not having "the real thing" or the full experience in the eyes of a young teenager. This reads as the HN version of the "but we have iMessage at home" meme (I mean this humourously, not as snark).
- kjkjadksj 2y ago
  We are past peak iphone. The actual cool phones of this era like the folding screen phones are all android.
mckn1ght 2y ago
Even that has been fixed by now in my chats with android friends. The only reason to display green bubbles anymore is to indicate lack of E2EE. But that will be coming to RCS interop soon as well.
frollogaston 2y ago
In theory it's ok. In practice, MMS group chats are broken. It's not even an iPhone thing, as evident in Android-dominated areas still relying on WhatsApp instead.
- KeplerBoy 2y ago
  That's not why WhatsApp took over. WhatsApp rose to popularity back when texting (especially internationally) was not unlimited and free.
  - frollogaston 2y ago
    Internationally maybe, but if someone in the US is using WhatsApp, it's because of the group texting problem. My family included.
devmor 2y ago
iMessage chats also include rich media that is either degraded in MMS (photos, videos unless you have RCS support) or just doesn't exist (like multiplayer games, invites, apple cash, etc). This may not seem like a big deal to you, but if you remember what it's like to be a kid, you should get it. The smallest friction can be a reason to exclude someone socially.
- kjkjadksj 2y ago
  Imessage already compresses it to hell enough. You need another protocol for fidelity.
futuraperdita 2y ago
Non-iMessage chats are also segregated by color, a visual affordance that identifies you as a member of the non-Apple outgroup. The other.
- kjkjadksj 2y ago
  God forbid

It literally works seamlessly though? Just converts to MMS and you don't notice outside the "liked BLABLABLA" sort of messages that trickle in without the imessage emoji system.

AlecSchueler 2y ago

I don't think seamless integration with MMS is enough to outweigh being different/not having "the real thing" or the full experience in the eyes of a young teenager. This reads as the HN version of the "but we have iMessage at home" meme (I mean this humourously, not as snark).

kjkjadksj 2y ago
We are past peak iphone. The actual cool phones of this era like the folding screen phones are all android.

mckn1ght 2y ago

Even that has been fixed by now in my chats with android friends. The only reason to display green bubbles anymore is to indicate lack of E2EE. But that will be coming to RCS interop soon as well.

frollogaston 2y ago

In theory it's ok. In practice, MMS group chats are broken. It's not even an iPhone thing, as evident in Android-dominated areas still relying on WhatsApp instead.

KeplerBoy 2y ago
That's not why WhatsApp took over. WhatsApp rose to popularity back when texting (especially internationally) was not unlimited and free.
- frollogaston 2y ago
  Internationally maybe, but if someone in the US is using WhatsApp, it's because of the group texting problem. My family included.

devmor 2y ago

iMessage chats also include rich media that is either degraded in MMS (photos, videos unless you have RCS support) or just doesn't exist (like multiplayer games, invites, apple cash, etc). This may not seem like a big deal to you, but if you remember what it's like to be a kid, you should get it. The smallest friction can be a reason to exclude someone socially.

kjkjadksj 2y ago
Imessage already compresses it to hell enough. You need another protocol for fidelity.

futuraperdita 2y ago

Non-iMessage chats are also segregated by color, a visual affordance that identifies you as a member of the non-Apple outgroup. The other.

kjkjadksj 2y ago
God forbid