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A beautiful aspiration, until you lose or break your phone...

vel0city 1y ago
People lose wallets. People lose car keys. My PaaK car has a backup passphrase to start it. I can be used in a pinch if my phone isn't working. I can't say the same if I lose my car key. If I go on a long trip I'm likely to bring multiple car keys and multiple payment methods. This is still true if I'm doing PaaK.
- cholantesh 1y ago
  And people don't lose phones?
  - vel0city 1y ago
    > My PaaK car has a backup passphrase to start it Cars that need a physical cut key to go into a cylinder don't usually have backup passphrases.
    - ethagnawl 1y ago
      No, but you can ziptie spares of said keys to an inconspicuous location on the vehicle -- just the valet key or the door key, depending on your tolerance for risk and whether or not the car came with them. (Credit to DeviantOllam for the idea.)
      - vel0city 1y ago
        Cars should have pin pads to unlock them. They're so useful on my Fords.
- blacksmith_tb 1y ago
  They do, and obviously it's a huge headache. But now we can imagine a bright future where you can lose both, and your normal way to try and get help, all at once!
  - vel0city 1y ago
    > But now we can imagine a bright future where you can lose both, and your normal way to try and get help, all at once! Still a possibility with cut keys, paper currency, and dumb cell phones. Ever have all of those things in a bag and have that bag stolen? At least with the PaaK car I have, there's a backup passphrase as well. As I mentioned elsewhere, I'll trade the slightly worse day maybe once a decade+ (or quite possibly never!) for the convenience every single other day. If I'm smashing my phone every few days I'll probably rethink that strategy. But I'll probably want to change whatever is causing me to smash my phone every few days.
ryandrake 1y ago
Or if you don't tend to bring your phone with you to do a bunch of errands. If all my locks were tied to my phone, I'd have to fish it out of the drawer whenever I go anywhere. OP said he "constantly" carries his phone with him, so maybe not a problem for him. Am I the only person in the world who leaves the phone at home if I'm not planning to use it?
- vel0city 1y ago
  > Am I the only person in the world who leaves the phone at home if I'm not planning to use it? But I would use it, even on a trip to get groceries. I'd use it as the source of the media I listen to in the car, so my audiobook starts playing wirelessly when I get in. My phone has the shopping list on it shared between my wife and I, so we always have it if either one of us decide to make a quick stop.
- zzyzxd 1y ago
  I am also one of those guys don't always carry my phone around. That's why I load my keys and credit cards on Apple Watch, turned off most of the notifications on it, and only allow calls and text messages from wife.
marxisttemp 1y ago
Unlike my car keys or wallet, my phone can be located anywhere in the world from another device.

People lose wallets. People lose car keys. My PaaK car has a backup passphrase to start it. I can be used in a pinch if my phone isn't working. I can't say the same if I lose my car key. If I go on a long trip I'm likely to bring multiple car keys and multiple payment methods. This is still true if I'm doing PaaK.

cholantesh 1y ago
And people don't lose phones?
- vel0city 1y ago
  > My PaaK car has a backup passphrase to start it Cars that need a physical cut key to go into a cylinder don't usually have backup passphrases.
  - ethagnawl 1y ago
    No, but you can ziptie spares of said keys to an inconspicuous location on the vehicle -- just the valet key or the door key, depending on your tolerance for risk and whether or not the car came with them. (Credit to DeviantOllam for the idea.)
    - vel0city 1y ago
      Cars should have pin pads to unlock them. They're so useful on my Fords.
blacksmith_tb 1y ago
They do, and obviously it's a huge headache. But now we can imagine a bright future where you can lose both, and your normal way to try and get help, all at once!
- vel0city 1y ago
  > But now we can imagine a bright future where you can lose both, and your normal way to try and get help, all at once! Still a possibility with cut keys, paper currency, and dumb cell phones. Ever have all of those things in a bag and have that bag stolen? At least with the PaaK car I have, there's a backup passphrase as well. As I mentioned elsewhere, I'll trade the slightly worse day maybe once a decade+ (or quite possibly never!) for the convenience every single other day. If I'm smashing my phone every few days I'll probably rethink that strategy. But I'll probably want to change whatever is causing me to smash my phone every few days.

ryandrake 1y ago

Or if you don't tend to bring your phone with you to do a bunch of errands. If all my locks were tied to my phone, I'd have to fish it out of the drawer whenever I go anywhere. OP said he "constantly" carries his phone with him, so maybe not a problem for him. Am I the only person in the world who leaves the phone at home if I'm not planning to use it?

vel0city 1y ago
> Am I the only person in the world who leaves the phone at home if I'm not planning to use it? But I would use it, even on a trip to get groceries. I'd use it as the source of the media I listen to in the car, so my audiobook starts playing wirelessly when I get in. My phone has the shopping list on it shared between my wife and I, so we always have it if either one of us decide to make a quick stop.
zzyzxd 1y ago
I am also one of those guys don't always carry my phone around. That's why I load my keys and credit cards on Apple Watch, turned off most of the notifications on it, and only allow calls and text messages from wife.

marxisttemp 1y ago

Unlike my car keys or wallet, my phone can be located anywhere in the world from another device.