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Nice to see that most people in the world can identify a con artist when they see one --- even if US voters can't. America has 2 major exports --- stability a

Nice to see that most people in the world can identify a con artist when they see one --- even if US voters can't. America has 2 major exports --- stability and debt. And these are interconnected. When stability declines, financing debt becomes more expensive. The current administration is struggling to figure this out.

fastball 2y ago
In the current admin's defense, that is a terrible pair of major exports in a world that has already started to move away from Globalism. You can't maintain that if the primary "consumers" of those exports are not actual allies.
- jqpabc123 2y ago
  You can't maintain that if the primary "consumers" of those exports are not actual allies. Yes, all the more reason why attacking our allies is pure insanity. A lot of the countries we just attacked in the "trade war" are the same ones who buy our Treasury bonds. "Tariff Man" failed to make this obvious connection until after it was demonstrated to him. T-Bill yields jumped half a percent in a week after he made a complete fool of himself with "Liberation Day" in the WH rose garden. With one act of utter stupidity, "Tariff Man" cost the country more than DOGE has saved.
  - fastball 2y ago
    Oh for sure, they're not doing a good job. My point is only that I don't believe the status quo was maintainable, so "they could've just maintained the status quo" isn't a good position either.
    - jqpabc123 2y ago
      My point is that something demonstrably worse than the "status quo" is actually regression --- the opposite of progress --- one of the dumbest possible positions. In other words, unforced economic suicide is certainly an option to end the status quo --- but not a very good/desirable one.
jjulius 2y ago
>... even if US voters can't. Because blanket generalizations suck, I'll point out that 48.34% of voters did recognize a con artist.
- dvdhnt 2y ago
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  - jjulius 2y ago
    >Alternatively, 48.34% were gullible... Oh, look! More blanket generalizations that ignore the very much discussed discourse around Biden's faculties, the democratic party's tactics during their campaign and shift towards Harris, and the many nuances behind why people chose to vote for Harris as opposed to Trump.
    - dvdhnt 2y ago
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      - jjulius 2y ago
        I've made no generalizations. I simply used OP's con artist phrase to highlight the fact that not all voters did what OP intimated. I'm sure that there are those who voted for Trump that did feel he was a con artist, to use one example. Perhaps slapping some quotes over "recognize a con artist" in my first comment would've helped clarify things.
- pupppet 2y ago
  Not nearly high enough. And the rest of the world is watching a good chunk of that disapproving half sit on their thumbs while he tears the country apart.
- tzs 2y ago
  Maybe higher--I think you may have ignored third party candidates. 50.2% voted for someone other than Trump.

fastball 2y ago

In the current admin's defense, that is a terrible pair of major exports in a world that has already started to move away from Globalism. You can't maintain that if the primary "consumers" of those exports are not actual allies.

jqpabc123 2y ago
You can't maintain that if the primary "consumers" of those exports are not actual allies. Yes, all the more reason why attacking our allies is pure insanity. A lot of the countries we just attacked in the "trade war" are the same ones who buy our Treasury bonds. "Tariff Man" failed to make this obvious connection until after it was demonstrated to him. T-Bill yields jumped half a percent in a week after he made a complete fool of himself with "Liberation Day" in the WH rose garden. With one act of utter stupidity, "Tariff Man" cost the country more than DOGE has saved.
- fastball 2y ago
  Oh for sure, they're not doing a good job. My point is only that I don't believe the status quo was maintainable, so "they could've just maintained the status quo" isn't a good position either.
  - jqpabc123 2y ago
    My point is that something demonstrably worse than the "status quo" is actually regression --- the opposite of progress --- one of the dumbest possible positions. In other words, unforced economic suicide is certainly an option to end the status quo --- but not a very good/desirable one.

jjulius 2y ago

>... even if US voters can't. Because blanket generalizations suck, I'll point out that 48.34% of voters did recognize a con artist.

dvdhnt 2y ago
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- jjulius 2y ago
  >Alternatively, 48.34% were gullible... Oh, look! More blanket generalizations that ignore the very much discussed discourse around Biden's faculties, the democratic party's tactics during their campaign and shift towards Harris, and the many nuances behind why people chose to vote for Harris as opposed to Trump.
  - dvdhnt 2y ago
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    - jjulius 2y ago
      I've made no generalizations. I simply used OP's con artist phrase to highlight the fact that not all voters did what OP intimated. I'm sure that there are those who voted for Trump that did feel he was a con artist, to use one example. Perhaps slapping some quotes over "recognize a con artist" in my first comment would've helped clarify things.
pupppet 2y ago
Not nearly high enough. And the rest of the world is watching a good chunk of that disapproving half sit on their thumbs while he tears the country apart.
tzs 2y ago
Maybe higher--I think you may have ignored third party candidates. 50.2% voted for someone other than Trump.