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The idea of a bar (ie a place people go to get drunk) with a dedicated parking lot strikes me as particularly bad for road safety. I'm baffled that this is not

The idea of a bar (ie a place people go to get drunk) with a dedicated parking lot strikes me as particularly bad for road safety. I'm baffled that this is not only encouraged, but mandated. How do people do this in practice? Just drink and drive and hope they don't crash / get fined? Or does everybody bring 1 friend who sips colas the whole night?

vulcan01 2y ago
We call the latter a designated driver [1] though as you can imagine sometimes the designated driver is "only" slightly drunk. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Designated_driver https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Designated_driver
- skrebbel 2y ago
  Yeah but I mean, if everybody goes to the pub by car, does it mean everybody brings a designated driver? Or is this one of those things where everybody drives drunk but pretends nobody does?
  - alexfoo 2y ago
    Taxis exist.
    - skrebbel 2y ago
      The parking minimum is for taxis?
      - apocalyptic0n3 2y ago
        It's pretty common for people drive to the bar, get drunk, taxi/Uber/Lyft/DD home, and then return the following day to get their vehicle. I don't think it makes sense personally, but I also don't drink at all so I'm not a great judge here.
        robocat 2y ago
        Makes perfect sense if people are not planning on having a big night and then do. You can see people taxi/uber into a place if they are definitely planning to get blathered.
  - zhivota 2y ago
    Mostly the latter IMO. The most popular bar where I grew up is on a busy highway with no housing within walking distance. Parking lot reliably fills up every weekend night, mostly with single occupancy vehicles. You can do the math.
nonameiguess 2y ago
Parking lots are not mandated for bars in the US, at least not everywhere. I helped my girlfriend's dad open a bar in Long Beach 20 years ago. The city required us to pay for the maintenance of three streetside parking spaces, but that was it. Pay the city. We didn't have to build anything that didn't already exist.
- Suppafly 2y ago
  >Parking lots are not mandated for bars in the US, at least not everywhere. This, they are making the mistake that all the people on /r/askamerican do over on reddit. Laws like this mostly aren't nationwide or even statewide, they are decided on a very local level.

vulcan01 2y ago

We call the latter a designated driver [1] though as you can imagine sometimes the designated driver is "only" slightly drunk. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Designated_driver https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Designated_driver

skrebbel 2y ago
Yeah but I mean, if everybody goes to the pub by car, does it mean everybody brings a designated driver? Or is this one of those things where everybody drives drunk but pretends nobody does?
- alexfoo 2y ago
  Taxis exist.
  - skrebbel 2y ago
    The parking minimum is for taxis?
    - apocalyptic0n3 2y ago
      It's pretty common for people drive to the bar, get drunk, taxi/Uber/Lyft/DD home, and then return the following day to get their vehicle. I don't think it makes sense personally, but I also don't drink at all so I'm not a great judge here.
      - robocat 2y ago
        Makes perfect sense if people are not planning on having a big night and then do. You can see people taxi/uber into a place if they are definitely planning to get blathered.
- zhivota 2y ago
  Mostly the latter IMO. The most popular bar where I grew up is on a busy highway with no housing within walking distance. Parking lot reliably fills up every weekend night, mostly with single occupancy vehicles. You can do the math.

nonameiguess 2y ago

Parking lots are not mandated for bars in the US, at least not everywhere. I helped my girlfriend's dad open a bar in Long Beach 20 years ago. The city required us to pay for the maintenance of three streetside parking spaces, but that was it. Pay the city. We didn't have to build anything that didn't already exist.

Suppafly 2y ago
>Parking lots are not mandated for bars in the US, at least not everywhere. This, they are making the mistake that all the people on /r/askamerican do over on reddit. Laws like this mostly aren't nationwide or even statewide, they are decided on a very local level.