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Aren't stdlib functions the ones you know by heart after a while anyways?

by tcfhgj 2y ago

danielbln 2y ago
Not everyone works in a single language and/or deep in some singular code base.
- BigJono 2y ago
  Gee do you think maybe that's why all our software sucks balls these days?
  - Philpax 2y ago
    No? Of all the reasons software sucks, multidisciplinary programmers are unlikely to be near the top.
    - jajko 2y ago
      They certainly are for me, working but horribly designed java projects done by plsql devs were a proper eyeballs bleeding long into the night. Absolutely 0 framework or libs, nothing even for logging. Code architecture that would be left in the dust by most university semester projects. This is how plsql codebases look, but boy Java (and rest of the world) moved quite far since 1995.
- skydhash 2y ago
  I struggle to think how one person is supposed to interact with that many languages on a daily (or even weekly) basis. I’ve been on projects with multiple languages, but the truly active code was done in only two. The other languages were used in completed modules where we do routine maintenance and rare alterations.
  - simonw 2y ago
    "I struggle to think how one person is supposed to interact with that many languages on a daily (or even weekly) basis." LLMs. I've expanded the circle of languages I use on a frequent basis quite dramatically since I started leaning on LLMs more. I used to be Python, SQL and JavaScript only. These days I'm using jq, AppleScript, Bash, Go, awk, sed, ffmpeg and so many more. I used to avoid infrequently used DSLs because I couldn't hold them in my memory. Now I'll happily use "the best tool for the job" without worrying about spinning up on all the details first.
apothegm 2y ago
Depends on the language. Python for instance has a massive default library, and there are entire modules I use anywhere from one a year to once a decade —- or never at all until some new project needs them.

Aren't stdlib functions the ones you know by heart after a while anyways?

by tcfhgj 2y ago

Aren't stdlib functions the ones you know by heart after a while anyways?

danielbln 2y ago

Not everyone works in a single language and/or deep in some singular code base.

BigJono 2y ago
Gee do you think maybe that's why all our software sucks balls these days?
- Philpax 2y ago
  No? Of all the reasons software sucks, multidisciplinary programmers are unlikely to be near the top.
  - jajko 2y ago
    They certainly are for me, working but horribly designed java projects done by plsql devs were a proper eyeballs bleeding long into the night. Absolutely 0 framework or libs, nothing even for logging. Code architecture that would be left in the dust by most university semester projects. This is how plsql codebases look, but boy Java (and rest of the world) moved quite far since 1995.
skydhash 2y ago
I struggle to think how one person is supposed to interact with that many languages on a daily (or even weekly) basis. I’ve been on projects with multiple languages, but the truly active code was done in only two. The other languages were used in completed modules where we do routine maintenance and rare alterations.
- simonw 2y ago
  "I struggle to think how one person is supposed to interact with that many languages on a daily (or even weekly) basis." LLMs. I've expanded the circle of languages I use on a frequent basis quite dramatically since I started leaning on LLMs more. I used to be Python, SQL and JavaScript only. These days I'm using jq, AppleScript, Bash, Go, awk, sed, ffmpeg and so many more. I used to avoid infrequently used DSLs because I couldn't hold them in my memory. Now I'll happily use "the best tool for the job" without worrying about spinning up on all the details first.

apothegm 2y ago

Depends on the language. Python for instance has a massive default library, and there are entire modules I use anywhere from one a year to once a decade —- or never at all until some new project needs them.