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> What data in a federal agency could the chief executive not have authorization to access? Personally? For starters, he can't access anything the Legislature'

by Terr_ 2y ago

> What data in a federal agency could the chief executive not have authorization to access? Personally? For starters, he can't access anything the Legislature's laws say he can't. The Executive is there to implement the law, and that includes obeying them him/her-self. A President telling other people to break the law on his behalf by threatening to fire them is also a crime of extortion.

grandempire 2y ago
> he can't access anything the Legislature's laws say he can't. Can the legislature make rules for the president without constitutional amendment? I am interested- I’ll see if I can find examples.
- Terr_ 2y ago
  Well, if the legislature truly cannot make any statue affecting the President, that has some terrifying implications. It would mean a President is is legally permitted to ignore laws against raping a child on the sidewalk outside 1600 Pennsylvania avenue Ave then murdering all of Congress by blowing up the Capitol. Recently, a majority on the Supreme Court has claimed there's immunity for "Official Acts", but hasn't laid out any rule for when an official-looking act is actually an unofficial one... They're basically reserving the right to decide later. (Ex: Officially ordering the US military to kill Congress and Supreme Court Justices.) Not that I want to give the current one any more evil ideas.
  - nisegami 2y ago
    There was a 5 minute period after that ruling was published that I really hoped Joe would take the ruling to its logical conclusion, much as you did.
  - grandempire 2y ago
    > cannot make any statue affecting the President, I didn’t say affecting - I said limiting the power of. A regulatory procedure the president is asked to follow is different than saying “we made this information off limits”. > President is is legally permitted to ignore laws against raping That’s been beat to death. He would face impeachment + removal from office.
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    - throw16180339 2y ago
      > That’s been beat to death. He would face impeachment + removal from office. Republicans didn't object to Trump's coup attempt, fraud convictions, past attempted rapes, or proven corruption. 70% of them believe that he won the 2020 election. There's no reason to believe that they'd impeach him for child rape unless she was the daughter of a prominent Republican. Trump would have the girl killed, send her parents to a gulag in El Salvador, and Fox News would call it fake news.
      - grandempire 2y ago
        > past attempted rapes You are spreading misinformation.
        throw16180339 2y ago
        How? It's certainly possible that none of the numerous allegations or proven cases of sexual assault (https://19thnews.org/2023/10/donald-trump-associates-sexual-misconduct-allegations/ https://19thnews.org/2023/10/donald-trump-associates-sexual-...) were rape attempts, but that's at best an extraordinary claim requiring extraordinary evidence.
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- roywiggins 2y ago
  war powers resolution Also, it's a federal crime for the president to direct the IRS to audit someone: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/7217 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/7217

by Terr_ 2y ago

grandempire 2y ago

> he can't access anything the Legislature's laws say he can't. Can the legislature make rules for the president without constitutional amendment? I am interested- I’ll see if I can find examples.

Terr_ 2y ago
Well, if the legislature truly cannot make any statue affecting the President, that has some terrifying implications. It would mean a President is is legally permitted to ignore laws against raping a child on the sidewalk outside 1600 Pennsylvania avenue Ave then murdering all of Congress by blowing up the Capitol. Recently, a majority on the Supreme Court has claimed there's immunity for "Official Acts", but hasn't laid out any rule for when an official-looking act is actually an unofficial one... They're basically reserving the right to decide later. (Ex: Officially ordering the US military to kill Congress and Supreme Court Justices.) Not that I want to give the current one any more evil ideas.
- nisegami 2y ago
  There was a 5 minute period after that ruling was published that I really hoped Joe would take the ruling to its logical conclusion, much as you did.
- grandempire 2y ago
  > cannot make any statue affecting the President, I didn’t say affecting - I said limiting the power of. A regulatory procedure the president is asked to follow is different than saying “we made this information off limits”. > President is is legally permitted to ignore laws against raping That’s been beat to death. He would face impeachment + removal from office.
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  - throw16180339 2y ago
    > That’s been beat to death. He would face impeachment + removal from office. Republicans didn't object to Trump's coup attempt, fraud convictions, past attempted rapes, or proven corruption. 70% of them believe that he won the 2020 election. There's no reason to believe that they'd impeach him for child rape unless she was the daughter of a prominent Republican. Trump would have the girl killed, send her parents to a gulag in El Salvador, and Fox News would call it fake news.
    - grandempire 2y ago
      > past attempted rapes You are spreading misinformation.
      - throw16180339 2y ago
        How? It's certainly possible that none of the numerous allegations or proven cases of sexual assault (https://19thnews.org/2023/10/donald-trump-associates-sexual-misconduct-allegations/ https://19thnews.org/2023/10/donald-trump-associates-sexual-...) were rape attempts, but that's at best an extraordinary claim requiring extraordinary evidence.
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roywiggins 2y ago
war powers resolution Also, it's a federal crime for the president to direct the IRS to audit someone: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/7217 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/7217