4 ms·

Even worse when you know more of the whistleblower's story which is that ~15 minutes after one of DOGE's accounts were made there was an attempted login with th

by rtkwe 2y ago

Even worse when you know more of the whistleblower's story which is that ~15 minutes after one of DOGE's accounts were made there was an attempted login with the correct password from Russia. Not many explanations for that that look good for DOGE...

stephenitis 2y ago
Citation?
- gnabgib 2y ago
  From the whistle blower. > Within minutes after DOGE accessed the NLRB's systems, someone with an IP address in Russia started trying to log in, according to Berulis' disclosure. https://www.npr.org/2025/04/15/nx-s1-5355896/doge-nlrb-elon-musk-spacex-security https://www.npr.org/2025/04/15/nx-s1-5355896/doge-nlrb-elon-...
- orochimaaru 2y ago
  Not parent but it’s here - https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/04/whistleblower-doge-siphoned-nlrb-case-data/ https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/04/whistleblower-doge-sipho... DOGE is a complete clusterfuck. Fwiw I think there is hard to spot fraud in the govt that should be looked at (eg price inflation at the pentagon, VA, Medicaid/Medicare, SS). They should have done the hard work of uncovering that. Instead they just went for clickbait headlines.
  - mmooss 2y ago
    > DOGE is a complete clusterfuck. It depends what the objectives are. My impression is that they have been very successful pursuing their actual objectives, while providing a cover story of a 'clusterfuck'.
    - rtkwe 2y ago
      And conveniently gutting agencies that are or were soon to be thorns in Elon's side. FAA and EPA were annoying him around SpaceX's Starship test launches, CFPB would be annoying for his future everything app plans for Twitter, etc.
      - orochimaaru 2y ago
        Maybe. But none of those make him as much money as Tesla which is in the dumps with all the shenanigans. From a motivation perspective it seems more like rank stupidity than Machiavellian.
        mmooss 2y ago
        Their aim seems to be power, and many wealthy people in the US have jumped on the bandwagon of supporting the seizure of power while sacrificing some money. Musk will have a roof over his head regardless.
        DrillShopper 2y ago
        > But none of those make him as much money as Tesla which is in the dumps with all the shenanigans. Give Musk a year or two out of DOGE and it won't matter - Tesla will be back up after Musk isn't in the government spotlight. The voters in the US (who by and large are good little consumers) have the memory of a goldfish for things like this. You can't even get progressives to not eat at Chick-fil-A despite their founders blantent homophobia. This incident is not going to keep people from buying Tesla in the long run.
        mmooss 2y ago
        > You can't even get progressives to not eat at Chick-fil-A despite their founders blantent homophobia. This incident is not going to keep people from buying Tesla in the long run. That narrative is great at stopping people from taking action - I wonder who it comes from? In fact, companies bow to public pressure all the time. Look at those retreating from DEI or support of LGBTQ rights before Trump took office. One of the beer companies' marketing used a trans person and the transphobia, boycotts, etc. led to them firing people and dropping the trans person.
- rtkwe 2y ago
  Take your pick it was widely reported and you can read the original whistleblower report; https://whistlebloweraid.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/2025_0414_Berulis-Disclosure-with-Exhibits.s.pdf https://whistlebloweraid.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/2025... - page 2 & 11 "This declaration details DOGE activity within NLRB, the exfiltration of data from NLRB systems, and – concerningly – near real-time access by users in Russia. Notably, within minutes of DOGE personnel creating user accounts in NLRB systems, on multiple occasions someone or something within Russia attempted to login using all of the valid credentials (eg. Usernames/Passwords)" "For example: In the days after DOGE accessed NLRB’s systems, we noticed a user with an IP address in Primorskiy Krai, Russia started trying to log in. Those attempts were blocked, but they were especially alarming. Whoever was attempting to log in was using one of the newly created accounts that were used in the other DOGE related activities and it appeared they had the correct username and password due to the authentication flow only stopping them due to our no-out-of-country logins policy activating. There were more than 20 such attempts, and what is particularly concerning is that many of these login attempts occurred within 15 minutes of the accounts being created by DOGE engineers." https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/04/whistleblower-doge-siphoned-nlrb-case-data/#:~:text=The%20NLRB%20whistleblower%20said%20the%20unusual%20large%20data%20outflows%20coincided%20with%20multiple%20blocked%20login%20attempts%20from%20an%20Internet%20address%20in%20Russia%20that%20tried%20to%20use%20valid%20credentials%20for%20a%20newly%2Dcreated%20DOGE%20user%20account. https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/04/whistleblower-doge-sipho... https://www.npr.org/2025/04/15/nx-s1-5355896/doge-nlrb-elon-musk-spacex-security#:~:text=in%20attempts%20from-,an%20IP%20address%20in%20Russia,-%2C%20according%20to%20the https://www.npr.org/2025/04/15/nx-s1-5355896/doge-nlrb-elon-...
ourmandave 2y ago
That's straight up traitorous. DOGE needs to be shutdown and everyone of them held as a flight risk while the whole thing is investigated.
- DrillShopper 2y ago
  They work for Trump so they'll never be held to account, even if a Democrat wins the next election (assuming even have one and it's fair and free) I never thought I'd be calling for UN observers for an election in the US but here we are
  - jarym 2y ago
    The guy in the oval wants to defund the UN… he’s one step ahead of you!
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    > They work for Trump so they'll never be held to account, even if a Democrat wins the next election Why? If Democrats take the House in the midterms, which looks more likely the longer Navarro and Musk have West Wing access, they can basically turn these folks' lives into a living hell of back-to-back hearings (and contempt charges down the road). And if Democrats win the next election, they'll presumably put someone with a pulse in charge who doesn't take two years to bring the most important cases of their administration to the docket.
    - efnx 2y ago
      I think Trump could simply pardon them, unfortunately.
      - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
        > Trump could simply pardon them Ironically, one of the most useful things Trump could do is prosecute e.g. Hunter Bide so SCOTUS can strike down preëmptive pardons.
      - 2y ago

by rtkwe 2y ago

stephenitis 2y ago

Citation?

gnabgib 2y ago
From the whistle blower. > Within minutes after DOGE accessed the NLRB's systems, someone with an IP address in Russia started trying to log in, according to Berulis' disclosure. https://www.npr.org/2025/04/15/nx-s1-5355896/doge-nlrb-elon-musk-spacex-security https://www.npr.org/2025/04/15/nx-s1-5355896/doge-nlrb-elon-...
orochimaaru 2y ago
Not parent but it’s here - https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/04/whistleblower-doge-siphoned-nlrb-case-data/ https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/04/whistleblower-doge-sipho... DOGE is a complete clusterfuck. Fwiw I think there is hard to spot fraud in the govt that should be looked at (eg price inflation at the pentagon, VA, Medicaid/Medicare, SS). They should have done the hard work of uncovering that. Instead they just went for clickbait headlines.
- mmooss 2y ago
  > DOGE is a complete clusterfuck. It depends what the objectives are. My impression is that they have been very successful pursuing their actual objectives, while providing a cover story of a 'clusterfuck'.
  - rtkwe 2y ago
    And conveniently gutting agencies that are or were soon to be thorns in Elon's side. FAA and EPA were annoying him around SpaceX's Starship test launches, CFPB would be annoying for his future everything app plans for Twitter, etc.
    - orochimaaru 2y ago
      Maybe. But none of those make him as much money as Tesla which is in the dumps with all the shenanigans. From a motivation perspective it seems more like rank stupidity than Machiavellian.
      - mmooss 2y ago
        Their aim seems to be power, and many wealthy people in the US have jumped on the bandwagon of supporting the seizure of power while sacrificing some money. Musk will have a roof over his head regardless.
      - DrillShopper 2y ago
        > But none of those make him as much money as Tesla which is in the dumps with all the shenanigans. Give Musk a year or two out of DOGE and it won't matter - Tesla will be back up after Musk isn't in the government spotlight. The voters in the US (who by and large are good little consumers) have the memory of a goldfish for things like this. You can't even get progressives to not eat at Chick-fil-A despite their founders blantent homophobia. This incident is not going to keep people from buying Tesla in the long run.
        mmooss 2y ago
        > You can't even get progressives to not eat at Chick-fil-A despite their founders blantent homophobia. This incident is not going to keep people from buying Tesla in the long run. That narrative is great at stopping people from taking action - I wonder who it comes from? In fact, companies bow to public pressure all the time. Look at those retreating from DEI or support of LGBTQ rights before Trump took office. One of the beer companies' marketing used a trans person and the transphobia, boycotts, etc. led to them firing people and dropping the trans person.
rtkwe 2y ago
Take your pick it was widely reported and you can read the original whistleblower report; https://whistlebloweraid.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/2025_0414_Berulis-Disclosure-with-Exhibits.s.pdf https://whistlebloweraid.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/2025... - page 2 & 11 "This declaration details DOGE activity within NLRB, the exfiltration of data from NLRB systems, and – concerningly – near real-time access by users in Russia. Notably, within minutes of DOGE personnel creating user accounts in NLRB systems, on multiple occasions someone or something within Russia attempted to login using all of the valid credentials (eg. Usernames/Passwords)" "For example: In the days after DOGE accessed NLRB’s systems, we noticed a user with an IP address in Primorskiy Krai, Russia started trying to log in. Those attempts were blocked, but they were especially alarming. Whoever was attempting to log in was using one of the newly created accounts that were used in the other DOGE related activities and it appeared they had the correct username and password due to the authentication flow only stopping them due to our no-out-of-country logins policy activating. There were more than 20 such attempts, and what is particularly concerning is that many of these login attempts occurred within 15 minutes of the accounts being created by DOGE engineers." https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/04/whistleblower-doge-siphoned-nlrb-case-data/#:~:text=The%20NLRB%20whistleblower%20said%20the%20unusual%20large%20data%20outflows%20coincided%20with%20multiple%20blocked%20login%20attempts%20from%20an%20Internet%20address%20in%20Russia%20that%20tried%20to%20use%20valid%20credentials%20for%20a%20newly%2Dcreated%20DOGE%20user%20account. https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/04/whistleblower-doge-sipho... https://www.npr.org/2025/04/15/nx-s1-5355896/doge-nlrb-elon-musk-spacex-security#:~:text=in%20attempts%20from-,an%20IP%20address%20in%20Russia,-%2C%20according%20to%20the https://www.npr.org/2025/04/15/nx-s1-5355896/doge-nlrb-elon-...

ourmandave 2y ago

That's straight up traitorous. DOGE needs to be shutdown and everyone of them held as a flight risk while the whole thing is investigated.

DrillShopper 2y ago
They work for Trump so they'll never be held to account, even if a Democrat wins the next election (assuming even have one and it's fair and free) I never thought I'd be calling for UN observers for an election in the US but here we are
- jarym 2y ago
  The guy in the oval wants to defund the UN… he’s one step ahead of you!
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > They work for Trump so they'll never be held to account, even if a Democrat wins the next election Why? If Democrats take the House in the midterms, which looks more likely the longer Navarro and Musk have West Wing access, they can basically turn these folks' lives into a living hell of back-to-back hearings (and contempt charges down the road). And if Democrats win the next election, they'll presumably put someone with a pulse in charge who doesn't take two years to bring the most important cases of their administration to the docket.
  - efnx 2y ago
    I think Trump could simply pardon them, unfortunately.
    - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
      > Trump could simply pardon them Ironically, one of the most useful things Trump could do is prosecute e.g. Hunter Bide so SCOTUS can strike down preëmptive pardons.
    - 2y ago