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When did the rolling coal crowd ever fall in love with Tesla?

VOIPThrowaway 2y ago
When we all realized we needed a commuter car in the family to save a crap ton of money. Rather spend $4 in electricity than $25 in diesel for a 100 mile commute.
- Marsymars 2y ago
  That’s a weird comparison, given you can commute 100 miles for like $8 of gas with a $10k car. Breakeven on fuel costs is in the order of decades on that commute.
  - dyauspitr 2y ago
    I have an electric truck and I get ~300 miles on $9 worth of electricity vs $115 for a full tank of gas on the ICE model for around 400 miles.
    - johnea 2y ago
      Ditto, my off-peak charging costs about 1/5th the cost per mile of burning gas. And we have some of the most expensive electricity in the US. If you can charge at home, electric is much cheaper. I don't know about "public" charging, since I don't use it.
      - dyauspitr 2y ago
        In my experience public charging is about as expensive as using gas. But 99% of my usage is with home charging.
    - Marsymars 2y ago
      Right, but I'm saying comparing like-for-like models of big truck vs. EV for commuting is a bad/weird comparison. You can cut your fuel costs by like 2/3 by moving from a big truck to a compact ICE car for commuting. (Or even a smaller/more efficient truck - e.g. a hybrid Ford Maverick costs about $25 in gas for 300 miles.) And sure, you might have a legit reason to need a full-size pickup for commuting, but that doesn't apply to 90% of people who actually commute with full-size pickups.
      - dyauspitr 2y ago
        My comparison was pretty apples to apples. I have a big EV truck and I’m comparing it to a big ICE truck. They’re both Ford F150s.
        Marsymars 2y ago
        Yes, it was apples-to-apples, and my point is that it's still a bad comparison, because it's like there are a hundred people comparing whether whole Cripps Pink or Fuji apples are more cost-effective for feeding their pets, but 90 of those people have pet grasshoppers that they could feed with leftover lettuce.
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readthenotes1 2y ago
The "rolling coal crowd" fell in love with Musk when he bought Twitter in retaliation for them blocking Babylon Bee. The more recent Trump alignment is just icing on the cake (or fly ash for your concrete, if you want to strain the metaphor)
- dyauspitr 2y ago
  Loving Musk yes, but loving Tesla?
  - readthenotes1 2y ago
    Cult of personality thing. Plus, Plaid mode
- mingus88 2y ago
  Are you saying Musk paid $44B for Twitter out of spite over a D-list comedy website? Of all the articles and podcasts I followed around that acquisition, this is the first time I have ever heard it tied to the Babylon bee. Do you have a source?
  - readthenotes1 2y ago
    Musk loving maga people told me ... And also https://www.dailywire.com/news/elon-musk-contacted-the-babylon-bee-before-buying-9-of-twitter https://www.dailywire.com/news/elon-musk-contacted-the-babyl...
dgacmu 2y ago
There are a lot of Republicans who aren't the rolling coal crowd, though. The partisanship is really weird that way. More Americans support environmentally friendly policies than vote Democrat, for example -- unless you tell them it's a democratic party policy, in which case they reject it.
- palmotea 2y ago
  > unless you tell them it's a democratic party policy, in which case they reject it. The Democrats are that bad, huh.
  - locopati 2y ago
    30 years of propaganda will do that
    - palmotea 2y ago
      > 30 years of propaganda will do that That's a bullshit excuse. Who knows about the future, but for the last 30 years the Democrats have been perfectly free and have had ample opportunity to counter any "propaganda" against them. If their association taints popular policies in the eyes of the Americans, the party is, at a minimum, incompetent.
      - dyauspitr 2y ago
        Countering propaganda here involves stooping to levels of lies, deception, corruption and scorched earth policies that are categorically abhorrent and frankly I don’t think the kind of people that run as democratic representatives are capable of.
      - locopati 2y ago
        It plays a role though. The right wing has been lying for decades and making up their own version of the world and a lot of people have bought into that such that we now have a dangerous clown as US president (and they still think he's great).
RickJWagner 2y ago
I’m center/right, and a car enthusiast. I’d love to have a Tesla, for the torque and for the simplicity of the drive train. I don’t think I’m a rarity.

When we all realized we needed a commuter car in the family to save a crap ton of money. Rather spend $4 in electricity than $25 in diesel for a 100 mile commute.

Marsymars 2y ago
That’s a weird comparison, given you can commute 100 miles for like $8 of gas with a $10k car. Breakeven on fuel costs is in the order of decades on that commute.
- dyauspitr 2y ago
  I have an electric truck and I get ~300 miles on $9 worth of electricity vs $115 for a full tank of gas on the ICE model for around 400 miles.
  - johnea 2y ago
    Ditto, my off-peak charging costs about 1/5th the cost per mile of burning gas. And we have some of the most expensive electricity in the US. If you can charge at home, electric is much cheaper. I don't know about "public" charging, since I don't use it.
    - dyauspitr 2y ago
      In my experience public charging is about as expensive as using gas. But 99% of my usage is with home charging.
  - Marsymars 2y ago
    Right, but I'm saying comparing like-for-like models of big truck vs. EV for commuting is a bad/weird comparison. You can cut your fuel costs by like 2/3 by moving from a big truck to a compact ICE car for commuting. (Or even a smaller/more efficient truck - e.g. a hybrid Ford Maverick costs about $25 in gas for 300 miles.) And sure, you might have a legit reason to need a full-size pickup for commuting, but that doesn't apply to 90% of people who actually commute with full-size pickups.
    - dyauspitr 2y ago
      My comparison was pretty apples to apples. I have a big EV truck and I’m comparing it to a big ICE truck. They’re both Ford F150s.
      - Marsymars 2y ago
        Yes, it was apples-to-apples, and my point is that it's still a bad comparison, because it's like there are a hundred people comparing whether whole Cripps Pink or Fuji apples are more cost-effective for feeding their pets, but 90 of those people have pet grasshoppers that they could feed with leftover lettuce.

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readthenotes1 2y ago

The "rolling coal crowd" fell in love with Musk when he bought Twitter in retaliation for them blocking Babylon Bee. The more recent Trump alignment is just icing on the cake (or fly ash for your concrete, if you want to strain the metaphor)

dyauspitr 2y ago
Loving Musk yes, but loving Tesla?
- readthenotes1 2y ago
  Cult of personality thing. Plus, Plaid mode
mingus88 2y ago
Are you saying Musk paid $44B for Twitter out of spite over a D-list comedy website? Of all the articles and podcasts I followed around that acquisition, this is the first time I have ever heard it tied to the Babylon bee. Do you have a source?
- readthenotes1 2y ago
  Musk loving maga people told me ... And also https://www.dailywire.com/news/elon-musk-contacted-the-babylon-bee-before-buying-9-of-twitter https://www.dailywire.com/news/elon-musk-contacted-the-babyl...

dgacmu 2y ago

There are a lot of Republicans who aren't the rolling coal crowd, though. The partisanship is really weird that way. More Americans support environmentally friendly policies than vote Democrat, for example -- unless you tell them it's a democratic party policy, in which case they reject it.

palmotea 2y ago
> unless you tell them it's a democratic party policy, in which case they reject it. The Democrats are that bad, huh.
- locopati 2y ago
  30 years of propaganda will do that
  - palmotea 2y ago
    > 30 years of propaganda will do that That's a bullshit excuse. Who knows about the future, but for the last 30 years the Democrats have been perfectly free and have had ample opportunity to counter any "propaganda" against them. If their association taints popular policies in the eyes of the Americans, the party is, at a minimum, incompetent.
    - dyauspitr 2y ago
      Countering propaganda here involves stooping to levels of lies, deception, corruption and scorched earth policies that are categorically abhorrent and frankly I don’t think the kind of people that run as democratic representatives are capable of.
    - locopati 2y ago
      It plays a role though. The right wing has been lying for decades and making up their own version of the world and a lot of people have bought into that such that we now have a dangerous clown as US president (and they still think he's great).

RickJWagner 2y ago

I’m center/right, and a car enthusiast. I’d love to have a Tesla, for the torque and for the simplicity of the drive train. I don’t think I’m a rarity.