3 ms·

There's still a large supply of relatively bad/inexperienced developers looking for a job from what I've seen (currently hiring for a mid level role). The last

by fhd2 1y ago

There's still a large supply of relatively bad/inexperienced developers looking for a job from what I've seen (currently hiring for a mid level role). The last time I hired developers 2-3 years ago, there was a far better signal to noise ratio. So I suppose we still have some of the oversupply from that era left, not to mention that gen AI doesn't seem to be a net positive for hiring (less signal for both companies and good candidates). But at least here in Europe, I don't really know any base line competent devs looking for work.

gymbeaux 1y ago
It sounds like you're saying people like me just need to "wait out" the "mediocre" SWEs... that they, already with one foot out of the industry anyway (having never been particularly passionate), are more-likely to switch careers entirely in order to make ends meet. If so, I would be playing right into that (to my detriment) by pivoting to another career myself. Therefore, I should stay put and trust that things will get better and eventually return to normal.
- fhd2 1y ago
  Sorry for the late response. No, that's not really what I tried to say. It's rather just a dilemma I was pointing out: If there's more noise and less signal, it's harder for the good people to find good employers _and_ vice versa. Not easier. Not to mention that a lot of "good enough" devs can manage to stay employed, even when better devs are available on the market. Any automatic correction to this will, I believe, take years. The way I find clients for my company is exclusively by reputation, i.e. network. Quite often I get asked if I know good devs, and I'm starting to draw a blank. So if you feel like reaching out for a chat (see my profile), I could offer to reach out if something comes up. My circles are primarily in Europe though.

3 ms·

There's still a large supply of relatively bad/inexperienced developers looking for a job from what I've seen (currently hiring for a mid level role). The last

by fhd2 1y ago

gymbeaux 1y ago
It sounds like you're saying people like me just need to "wait out" the "mediocre" SWEs... that they, already with one foot out of the industry anyway (having never been particularly passionate), are more-likely to switch careers entirely in order to make ends meet. If so, I would be playing right into that (to my detriment) by pivoting to another career myself. Therefore, I should stay put and trust that things will get better and eventually return to normal.
- fhd2 1y ago
  Sorry for the late response. No, that's not really what I tried to say. It's rather just a dilemma I was pointing out: If there's more noise and less signal, it's harder for the good people to find good employers _and_ vice versa. Not easier. Not to mention that a lot of "good enough" devs can manage to stay employed, even when better devs are available on the market. Any automatic correction to this will, I believe, take years. The way I find clients for my company is exclusively by reputation, i.e. network. Quite often I get asked if I know good devs, and I'm starting to draw a blank. So if you feel like reaching out for a chat (see my profile), I could offer to reach out if something comes up. My circles are primarily in Europe though.