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It is called pig butchering. Your online girlfriend teaches you how to invest in crypto. Both you and her get incredibly rich and you pour more and more money i

It is called pig butchering. Your online girlfriend teaches you how to invest in crypto. Both you and her get incredibly rich and you pour more and more money into your investment. Until one day you learn everything was a lie. Your online girlfriend. The riches you supposedly earned. The answer for these scam centers and for ransomware is to declare any nation that harbors them as state sponsors of terror. https://cyberscoop.com/ransomware-terrorism-ndaa-2025/ https://cyberscoop.com/ransomware-terrorism-ndaa-2025/

rightbyte 2y ago
Seems like a way to use lax consumer protection as an excuse to bomb people.
- rawgabbit 2y ago
  That is an odd take. Ransomware gangs had held hospitals and cities in the US hostage for years. The scam centers are making elderly destitute who then have to fall back on the state for subsistence. If nations do not attempt to rein in these terrorist gangs, yes, they should be held accountable.
  - rightbyte 2y ago
    How about holding hospitals accountable for connecting sensitive systems to the internet. And not some poor country where government are hardly in control and some guy has some vpn server running in a closet somewhere. > If nations do not attempt to rein in these terrorist gangs, yes, they should be held accountable. I recognize this...
intended 2y ago
Pit butchering scams are a subtype of scams. The core issue with pig butchering is that the harm process is distributed across platforms, so there’s no single view of the problem at a platform level. This hasn’t stopped efforts to improve knowledge and coordination, but the next barrier to action is in geographical location, and out right kidnap of people to man the fake accounts. But now, to make matters worse, there’s LLMs which can simply fake humans at scale.
- listenallyall 2y ago
  I find it pretty amazing that so many people have a positive view of AI, when the plus side is that it perhaps makes writing code faster and easier (although too fast and easy and you'll be put of a job) while the downside is, as you point out, widespread scamming at infinite scale, destruction of trust in photos and videos as reality, spamming, cheating, harming, and who knows what else once not-so-nice people get creative on its uses. Automated internment camps? Dynamic pricing to extract the absolute maximum from every consumer transaction? Families unable to trust each other? I expect them all and more.

rightbyte 2y ago

Seems like a way to use lax consumer protection as an excuse to bomb people.

rawgabbit 2y ago
That is an odd take. Ransomware gangs had held hospitals and cities in the US hostage for years. The scam centers are making elderly destitute who then have to fall back on the state for subsistence. If nations do not attempt to rein in these terrorist gangs, yes, they should be held accountable.
- rightbyte 2y ago
  How about holding hospitals accountable for connecting sensitive systems to the internet. And not some poor country where government are hardly in control and some guy has some vpn server running in a closet somewhere. > If nations do not attempt to rein in these terrorist gangs, yes, they should be held accountable. I recognize this...

intended 2y ago

Pit butchering scams are a subtype of scams. The core issue with pig butchering is that the harm process is distributed across platforms, so there’s no single view of the problem at a platform level. This hasn’t stopped efforts to improve knowledge and coordination, but the next barrier to action is in geographical location, and out right kidnap of people to man the fake accounts. But now, to make matters worse, there’s LLMs which can simply fake humans at scale.

listenallyall 2y ago
I find it pretty amazing that so many people have a positive view of AI, when the plus side is that it perhaps makes writing code faster and easier (although too fast and easy and you'll be put of a job) while the downside is, as you point out, widespread scamming at infinite scale, destruction of trust in photos and videos as reality, spamming, cheating, harming, and who knows what else once not-so-nice people get creative on its uses. Automated internment camps? Dynamic pricing to extract the absolute maximum from every consumer transaction? Families unable to trust each other? I expect them all and more.