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There are different kinds of dependencies; the human brain needs nicotine to function properly, more than you get from modern food. Not recommending tobacco, no

by codr7 1y ago

There are different kinds of dependencies; the human brain needs nicotine to function properly, more than you get from modern food. Not recommending tobacco, nor big pharma crap, there are supplements.

moron4hire 1y ago
Yeah, it's weird. I'm actually a much nicer person on nicotine than I ever was before I got addicted. It makes it really hard to quit, because even after a few weeks, while I don't feel miserable anymore, I do miss the person I was on nicotine.
- DaveExeter 1y ago
  There's always vaping! Nicotine goodness without the combustion byproducts.
  - century19 1y ago
    People that I have seen substitute with vaping seem to get more addicted to that.
  - BossingAround 1y ago
    In a very simplistic way: - Smoking brings cancer and damages lungs. - Vaping damages lungs (more research needed on other possible conditions). - Nicotine pouches damage teeth. I suppose the healthiest way of ingesting nicotine would be nicotine pills, which exist to help people quit smoking (and which is why they are very expensive).
- bitmasher9 1y ago
  Quitting gets better. After months or years you’ll reach a point where your usual method of ingestion becomes repulsive instead of tempting.
- pastage 1y ago
  Not comparable depending on how you deliver it, but this is how I head a couple alcoholists describe it when they stop drinking. They miss the feeling and constantly feel that their new self is not worth as much (because of X).
  - rpmisms 1y ago
    Yeah, you can supplement GABA and get most of the same feeling. Alcohol does some nice things for the brain.
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longor1996 1y ago
Interesting! Do you have some studies or references at hand for this? Never heard of "human brain needs nicotine" before...
- const_cast 1y ago
  Maybe what he’s referring to is the effects nicotine has on people with ADHD and ASD. It’s sort of a self-medication. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8741955/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8741955/ There’s more you can find, too. Really interesting stuff. Unfortunate that nicotine is both incredibly harmful and incredibly addictive.
  - rpmisms 1y ago
    Nicotine itself isn't really harmful, though.
    - const_cast 1y ago
      It is, unfortunately. Over time it leads to cardiovascular damage.

by codr7 1y ago

moron4hire 1y ago

Yeah, it's weird. I'm actually a much nicer person on nicotine than I ever was before I got addicted. It makes it really hard to quit, because even after a few weeks, while I don't feel miserable anymore, I do miss the person I was on nicotine.

DaveExeter 1y ago
There's always vaping! Nicotine goodness without the combustion byproducts.
- century19 1y ago
  People that I have seen substitute with vaping seem to get more addicted to that.
- BossingAround 1y ago
  In a very simplistic way: - Smoking brings cancer and damages lungs. - Vaping damages lungs (more research needed on other possible conditions). - Nicotine pouches damage teeth. I suppose the healthiest way of ingesting nicotine would be nicotine pills, which exist to help people quit smoking (and which is why they are very expensive).
bitmasher9 1y ago
Quitting gets better. After months or years you’ll reach a point where your usual method of ingestion becomes repulsive instead of tempting.
pastage 1y ago
Not comparable depending on how you deliver it, but this is how I head a couple alcoholists describe it when they stop drinking. They miss the feeling and constantly feel that their new self is not worth as much (because of X).
- rpmisms 1y ago
  Yeah, you can supplement GABA and get most of the same feeling. Alcohol does some nice things for the brain.

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longor1996 1y ago

Interesting! Do you have some studies or references at hand for this? Never heard of "human brain needs nicotine" before...

const_cast 1y ago
Maybe what he’s referring to is the effects nicotine has on people with ADHD and ASD. It’s sort of a self-medication. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8741955/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8741955/ There’s more you can find, too. Really interesting stuff. Unfortunate that nicotine is both incredibly harmful and incredibly addictive.
- rpmisms 1y ago
  Nicotine itself isn't really harmful, though.
  - const_cast 1y ago
    It is, unfortunately. Over time it leads to cardiovascular damage.