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... when in Brazil?

by jihadjihad 2y ago

... when in Brazil?

LinuxAmbulance 2y ago
All the deaths happened in Brazil, your logic is shocking, but sound.
- NikkiA 2y ago
  Since the study was authored by brazilians who only used data from brazil, it's hard to tell if the fatalities were enabled by the brazilian electrical system and would not happen elsewhere. Especially given that 4/5 were in rural areas.
  - CydeWeys 2y ago
    It does seem like there's potentially some kind of bad electrical system / lack of grounding issue going on.
    - 0xDEADFED5 2y ago
      typically phone chargers aren't grounded, so probably not relevant? lightning travels through the ground, so i'd expect the ground wires to be rather dangerous. also, neutral is bonded to ground at the meter (at least here)... so also not good?
      - dylan604 2y ago
        Neutral bonding to ground is definitely not how it is done everywhere. A proper ground according to modern standards will have a true grounding rod that the buildings ground wiring is connected. Of course wiring predating those standards are a mix of how they are handled. Some older wiring used the buildings metal plumbing as ground which is why people say not to shower during an electrical storm.
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    - userbinator 2y ago
      "potentially"? ;-) Look around on the Internet and you'll definitely see how a lot of electrical systems in Brazil are not quite up to North American standards. Grounding is part of it.
  - PaulHoule 2y ago
    My guess is that Brazil’s infrastructure is not that different from other countries, since they run a 60Hz grid I’d imagine they use the system introduced by Edison’s company General Electric.
    - NikkiA 2y ago
      That's actually a fairly recent (1970s) change, prior to that it was a mix of 50 and 60Hz, 110V and 220V, with no national standard. Also, rural household wiring is often dogshit all around the world with many places having bad earthing.
- AStonesThrow 2y ago
  Are you crazy! If you die in Brazil, you die in REAL LIFE! https://m.xkcd.com/180/ https://m.xkcd.com/180/
  - foobarian 2y ago
    Brazilian currency being the real, you would kind of die in "real life" indeed
pixl97 2y ago
Could also be that Brazil has a lot of high population cities in high lightning zones. Couple that with illegal electric hookups and it sets up a dangerous situation.

... when in Brazil?

LinuxAmbulance 2y ago

All the deaths happened in Brazil, your logic is shocking, but sound.

NikkiA 2y ago
Since the study was authored by brazilians who only used data from brazil, it's hard to tell if the fatalities were enabled by the brazilian electrical system and would not happen elsewhere. Especially given that 4/5 were in rural areas.
- CydeWeys 2y ago
  It does seem like there's potentially some kind of bad electrical system / lack of grounding issue going on.
  - 0xDEADFED5 2y ago
    typically phone chargers aren't grounded, so probably not relevant? lightning travels through the ground, so i'd expect the ground wires to be rather dangerous. also, neutral is bonded to ground at the meter (at least here)... so also not good?
    - dylan604 2y ago
      Neutral bonding to ground is definitely not how it is done everywhere. A proper ground according to modern standards will have a true grounding rod that the buildings ground wiring is connected. Of course wiring predating those standards are a mix of how they are handled. Some older wiring used the buildings metal plumbing as ground which is why people say not to shower during an electrical storm.
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  - userbinator 2y ago
    "potentially"? ;-) Look around on the Internet and you'll definitely see how a lot of electrical systems in Brazil are not quite up to North American standards. Grounding is part of it.
- PaulHoule 2y ago
  My guess is that Brazil’s infrastructure is not that different from other countries, since they run a 60Hz grid I’d imagine they use the system introduced by Edison’s company General Electric.
  - NikkiA 2y ago
    That's actually a fairly recent (1970s) change, prior to that it was a mix of 50 and 60Hz, 110V and 220V, with no national standard. Also, rural household wiring is often dogshit all around the world with many places having bad earthing.
AStonesThrow 2y ago
Are you crazy! If you die in Brazil, you die in REAL LIFE! https://m.xkcd.com/180/ https://m.xkcd.com/180/
- foobarian 2y ago
  Brazilian currency being the real, you would kind of die in "real life" indeed

pixl97 2y ago

Could also be that Brazil has a lot of high population cities in high lightning zones. Couple that with illegal electric hookups and it sets up a dangerous situation.