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If privacy is the ground for creativity and agency, then let it be the soil in which mystery grows, not the airtight vault that suffocates every conversation ab
by kelseyfrog 2y ago
If privacy is the ground for creativity and agency, then let it be the soil in which mystery grows, not the airtight vault that suffocates every conversation about you. When you extend that absence to forbid mention or thought, you’ve weaponized oblivion into censorship. The right to be left alone is the creation of thought‑crime by fiat.
- bendigedig 2y agoBut what about what the article hints to w.r.t. the right to never be recorded? To be recorded is to leave an immutable trail of the self which prejudices how you (and others) view yourself. To be monitored is to be categorised which is to see yourself in an imperfect and distorting mirror. Look at your distorted historical reflection and tell me that it does not prejudice the choices that you make and so alter the person that you choose to be next.
- kelseyfrog 2y ago> To be monitored is to be categorised which is to see yourself in an imperfect and distorting mirror. To be observed is to be put into a taxonomy - a cracked funhouse mirror that never reflects the real you. Typifications aren’t a bug in the system; they’re the mind main feature. If the glare of categorization freaks you out, therapy is cheap and plentiful. And let’s be clear: the Noumenal - the unfiltered Real - is forever barred from our awareness. Everything we think and feel must pass through the sieve of perception. If that bothers you, congratulations. Welcome to being human. The only escape is non-being.
- bendigedig 2y agoCool story. I think most accept that we are unlikely to achieve thr absolute state you have described above, but we can reduce the scale of the bureaucratic categorisation and the associated distorted trail we leave; there is no question that the volume of such data has dramatically increased over the past century and is undoubetdly accelerating.
- kelseyfrog 2y agoSynthesizing a right because a person feels a way isn't valid.
- alganet 2y agoAre you declaring that you would volunteer for being permanently surveiled?
- kelseyfrog 2y agoBro, these internet debate tricks are not effective. Why not use a different strategy? I simply reject your premise.
- alganet 2y agoNot an internet trick, it's an old empathy tale. Would you want that done to you? Simple question. Not rethorical. It's not my premise. Do you accept your own premise? That you can't have that right.
- kelseyfrog 2y agoIt's a category error. Wanting it or not wanting it isn't even on my mind. I simply don't care. It doesn't bother me.
- alganet 2y agoSo you would, in fact, volunteer. You are leaning into it. It doesn't bother, right? Why not declare that you volunteer? Do you want me to leave you alone? Or can I keep investigating the real you?
- kelseyfrog 2y agoBro, Take a breath. You aren't going to gotcha me. It's a bad look.
- dayvigo 2y agoAre witness protection programs a form of "censorship?" We all agree the answer is no, I would hope. It follows that you are not affording this topic a proper level of nuance.
- kelseyfrog 2y agoLook, this isn't something where a counter-example disproves the thing. The formation of rights is not a logical proof.