There is an argument that western civilization went astray when Plato elevated human reason above all other virtues. The obvious problem is that for all of the

There is an argument that western civilization went astray when Plato elevated human reason above all other virtues. The obvious problem is that for all of the wonderful things reasoning has given us, it is just as effectively used for deceit both of the self and others. The arguments behind much of today's so called rationalists are laughable -- especially to someone outside of their bubble. It is precisely for these reasons that they have to cloak their ridiculous arguments in arbitrary quantitative analysis and impenetrable jargon. And then there is the irony of their nearly universal militant atheism that comes along with sneering contempt for traditional religion (which they also generally have at best an extremely superficial knowledge of). I also am particularly amused by the worship of Bayesian statistics without serious reflection on the fact that it is premised on subjective belief in the prior.