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Maybe your MAGA hat's brim is pulled down too low? There's a real, beautiful world out there if you're willing to see it. Knowledge is a good first step to beau

Maybe your MAGA hat's brim is pulled down too low? There's a real, beautiful world out there if you're willing to see it. Knowledge is a good first step to beauty!

carlosjobim 1y ago
You added nothing to the discussion. Your mental state is that you are a member of a mob who are out to squash anybody who thinks differently, and that gives you an illusion of having power. But in reality you don't know any of the people here, and the only power we have as commenters online is to exchange thoughts and ideas. As for the real world, there is a large variety of tariff policies around the world, and most countries implement much harsher tariffs than what Mr Trump is suggesting for America. There are many very good arguments for tariffs and against tariffs, let's talk about them instead?
- alabastervlog 1y ago
  > and most countries implement much harsher tariffs than what Mr Trump is suggesting for America. Which ones?
  - carlosjobim 1y ago
    [flagged]
    - alabastervlog 1y ago
      OK, so you're just a troll. Noted.
    - thunderfork 1y ago
      [dead]
- mindslight 1y ago
  > As for the real world, there is a large variety of tariff policies around the world, and most countries implement much harsher tariffs than what Mr Trump is suggesting for America. There are many very good arguments for tariffs and against tariffs, let's talk about them instead? Sorry, no. This is a common Trumpist talking point that has validated the comment you're responding to. Every aspect of the US economy is currently wholly reliant on imports. Untangling would certainly be possible, but would require an intelligent fine-grained approach with deliberate analysis and substitution - not ham-fisted blanket import taxes. There is absolutely no sense to any of Trump's actual policies, nor the manner in which they're haphazardly announced and then constantly churned, unless the goal is simply to harm our country. Debating and critiquing as if these might be good faith attempts at helping our country is a waste of energy that needs to be used more productively. Trumpism/destructionism thrives on our desire for rational debate, because while we debate how to build they just destroy. At this point, regardless of your political persuasion (I'm libertarian), it's time to stop drinking the Kool-aid and wake up to the fact we have a malevolent attacker in the White House. We can go back to debating the finer points of policy after we have an administration that actually puts the interests of the United States first.
  - carlosjobim 1y ago
    [flagged]
    - bloomingeek 1y ago
      Ding,ding,ding! We have an AI bot.
      - carlosjobim 1y ago
        Part of mob behaviour is also dehumanizing your opponent, like you just did. You are showing very predictable behaviour.
        mindslight 1y ago
        It's funny how the argument always comes back to how you're being "unfairly" written off, while the only objective argument you've actually offered is "tariffs can be good too" - presented as if you're some independent tariff enthusiast skeptical of Trump himself and not just a full on America-hating cult member. Bot or not it doesn't really matter. It's clear you're not going to change your opinion of Dear Leader until this country is in shambles, at which point you'll grumble about how you were lied to while moving on to the next destructionist rallying cry. (I doubt tariffs were a main issue for you twenty years ago) So it's not really about changing your mind, rather it's really about preventing other people from getting sucked in by the whirlpool of lazy unsubstantiated vibes.
- 542354234235 1y ago
  >There are many very good arguments for tariffs and against tariffs, let's talk about them instead? You haven’t talked about anything. You just keep “asking questions” as if the rhetorical questions are actually making a point, but when they are answered and show negative effects for the US, you just pivot to some other random question. That or you make sweeping, utterly simplistic statements like “neither the US nor any country in the world lives only on imported goods” (yeah, no one thought they did) or “changes in policy will have widespread effects. Including good effects.” (yeah, if I cut my legs off, I’ll save a fortune on shoes. Win!). You do nothing to actually talk about how “good effects” will outweigh all the bad effects or how we will magically make up for massive imports with domestic production. > You added nothing to the discussion. Pot, meet kettle.
  - carlosjobim 1y ago
    [flagged]
- bloomingeek 1y ago
  Ok, it's not the brim, you drank the kool-aid! Tariffs are best negotiated behind closed doors so as not to crash world markets. (Oh, and let's not trash the fed chair in open public either, you saw what happened, right?) Besides being blind, you might want to wake up also. Your "Mr. Trump" started a tariff war, leaving other countries no choice but to respond. If he would have went through normal sane channels, your 401K wouldn't be tanking right now. Tariffs are how the countries deal with each other, strong arming them, historically, always ends in either backing off or disaster. <Your mental state is that you are a member of a mob who are out to squash anybody who thinks differently, and that gives you an illusion of having power. But in reality you don't know any of the people here, and the only power we have as commenters online is to exchange thoughts and ideas.> A mob? Really? Since I don't have a window into your life, like you think you do into mine, I don't really have a rational way to respond to this statement.

Maybe your MAGA hat's brim is pulled down too low? There's a real, beautiful world out there if you're willing to see it. Knowledge is a good first step to beauty!

carlosjobim 1y ago

You added nothing to the discussion. Your mental state is that you are a member of a mob who are out to squash anybody who thinks differently, and that gives you an illusion of having power. But in reality you don't know any of the people here, and the only power we have as commenters online is to exchange thoughts and ideas. As for the real world, there is a large variety of tariff policies around the world, and most countries implement much harsher tariffs than what Mr Trump is suggesting for America. There are many very good arguments for tariffs and against tariffs, let's talk about them instead?

alabastervlog 1y ago
> and most countries implement much harsher tariffs than what Mr Trump is suggesting for America. Which ones?
- carlosjobim 1y ago
  [flagged]
  - alabastervlog 1y ago
    OK, so you're just a troll. Noted.
  - thunderfork 1y ago
    [dead]
mindslight 1y ago
> As for the real world, there is a large variety of tariff policies around the world, and most countries implement much harsher tariffs than what Mr Trump is suggesting for America. There are many very good arguments for tariffs and against tariffs, let's talk about them instead? Sorry, no. This is a common Trumpist talking point that has validated the comment you're responding to. Every aspect of the US economy is currently wholly reliant on imports. Untangling would certainly be possible, but would require an intelligent fine-grained approach with deliberate analysis and substitution - not ham-fisted blanket import taxes. There is absolutely no sense to any of Trump's actual policies, nor the manner in which they're haphazardly announced and then constantly churned, unless the goal is simply to harm our country. Debating and critiquing as if these might be good faith attempts at helping our country is a waste of energy that needs to be used more productively. Trumpism/destructionism thrives on our desire for rational debate, because while we debate how to build they just destroy. At this point, regardless of your political persuasion (I'm libertarian), it's time to stop drinking the Kool-aid and wake up to the fact we have a malevolent attacker in the White House. We can go back to debating the finer points of policy after we have an administration that actually puts the interests of the United States first.
- carlosjobim 1y ago
  [flagged]
  - bloomingeek 1y ago
    Ding,ding,ding! We have an AI bot.
    - carlosjobim 1y ago
      Part of mob behaviour is also dehumanizing your opponent, like you just did. You are showing very predictable behaviour.
      - mindslight 1y ago
        It's funny how the argument always comes back to how you're being "unfairly" written off, while the only objective argument you've actually offered is "tariffs can be good too" - presented as if you're some independent tariff enthusiast skeptical of Trump himself and not just a full on America-hating cult member. Bot or not it doesn't really matter. It's clear you're not going to change your opinion of Dear Leader until this country is in shambles, at which point you'll grumble about how you were lied to while moving on to the next destructionist rallying cry. (I doubt tariffs were a main issue for you twenty years ago) So it's not really about changing your mind, rather it's really about preventing other people from getting sucked in by the whirlpool of lazy unsubstantiated vibes.
542354234235 1y ago
>There are many very good arguments for tariffs and against tariffs, let's talk about them instead? You haven’t talked about anything. You just keep “asking questions” as if the rhetorical questions are actually making a point, but when they are answered and show negative effects for the US, you just pivot to some other random question. That or you make sweeping, utterly simplistic statements like “neither the US nor any country in the world lives only on imported goods” (yeah, no one thought they did) or “changes in policy will have widespread effects. Including good effects.” (yeah, if I cut my legs off, I’ll save a fortune on shoes. Win!). You do nothing to actually talk about how “good effects” will outweigh all the bad effects or how we will magically make up for massive imports with domestic production. > You added nothing to the discussion. Pot, meet kettle.
- carlosjobim 1y ago
  [flagged]
bloomingeek 1y ago
Ok, it's not the brim, you drank the kool-aid! Tariffs are best negotiated behind closed doors so as not to crash world markets. (Oh, and let's not trash the fed chair in open public either, you saw what happened, right?) Besides being blind, you might want to wake up also. Your "Mr. Trump" started a tariff war, leaving other countries no choice but to respond. If he would have went through normal sane channels, your 401K wouldn't be tanking right now. Tariffs are how the countries deal with each other, strong arming them, historically, always ends in either backing off or disaster. <Your mental state is that you are a member of a mob who are out to squash anybody who thinks differently, and that gives you an illusion of having power. But in reality you don't know any of the people here, and the only power we have as commenters online is to exchange thoughts and ideas.> A mob? Really? Since I don't have a window into your life, like you think you do into mine, I don't really have a rational way to respond to this statement.