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> What’s Supabase’s exit strategy? Are they sustainable long term as a standalone business? Acquisition best case, Private Equity worst case. Do you see Supab

> What’s Supabase’s exit strategy? Are they sustainable long term as a standalone business? Acquisition best case, Private Equity worst case. Do you see Supabase going public on the stock market? Perhaps unless they do what Cloudflare done and are replicating AWS, it may be hard to see a stock market debut. Could be wrong though.

fakedang 2y ago
Supabase is basically AWS Postgres under the hood. It's popular amongst hobbyists and small teams but I'm not sure whether any large teams actively use it. Once you're past the point of serious business, it's much more cost effective to host everything by yourself.
- lillecarl 2y ago
  What is serious business? I think supabase can scale brilliantly, and it doesn't lock you in, if you have need for some special infra you can build and integrate it, I don't know but you could possibly even use FDW to access a postgres you run yourself. Also they can't run on AWS postgres with all their postgres plug-ins AFAIK. The point of "cheaper to host everything yourself" is a lot higher than what most estimate. My only concern is that is supabase goes out of business or go evil you're gonna have a bad time, however everything is open-source
  - fakedang 2y ago
    Serious business is when you need to maintain uptime and stability. Not just me, but a lot of folks on the Supabase reddit have complained often about the insane downtimes that we've experienced at times with the platform. I would 100% use it for prototypes and MVPs, but for production? Neither me nor a lot of others would touch it with a pole, even though I'm sure your experience might be different.
- ZiiS 2y ago
  Supabase at is minimum providing a PostgreSQL server, pooler (they started on pgbouncer, how their own) and a PostREST API, and support, backup, logging etc. You can be doing serious business and not have the time/people to run these reliably self-hosted. They also provide Auth almost to the Auth0 level and Edge functions like Vercel, S3 like storage (sharing the db's permission system), and websocket/presence backed by Elixir. TBH they are a compelling value, at least for us.
  - fakedang 2y ago
    Granted, Supabase does provide a lot under the hood, and it's excellent for whipping out a quick MVP, but I wouldn't count it production ready even today, simply because of the downtime I've experienced at times (even if their dashboards say otherwise). And it's not just an isolated case - a lot of folks on reddit complain with the same issues. Perhaps your treatment is different because of the high spend you guys have.
- tootie 2y ago
  My former place ran a lot of RDS Postgres but also loved Supabase. It's more than just hosted DB because it has loads of value adds like web-based table editing, auth, edge functions, row-level security, easy hooks and triggers. We were capable of operating RDS but the cost of operations in dev hours was high. Supabase was super easy for moderate price and readily compatible with our RDS and Redshift.
  - fakedang 2y ago
    I don't disagree. Supabase does provide a lot of functions under the hood that one would have to build out individually otherwise. I really like their lock-in model - you're not locked in with your data, but because of the extra functionality that they provide to your database.

fakedang 2y ago

Supabase is basically AWS Postgres under the hood. It's popular amongst hobbyists and small teams but I'm not sure whether any large teams actively use it. Once you're past the point of serious business, it's much more cost effective to host everything by yourself.

lillecarl 2y ago
What is serious business? I think supabase can scale brilliantly, and it doesn't lock you in, if you have need for some special infra you can build and integrate it, I don't know but you could possibly even use FDW to access a postgres you run yourself. Also they can't run on AWS postgres with all their postgres plug-ins AFAIK. The point of "cheaper to host everything yourself" is a lot higher than what most estimate. My only concern is that is supabase goes out of business or go evil you're gonna have a bad time, however everything is open-source
- fakedang 2y ago
  Serious business is when you need to maintain uptime and stability. Not just me, but a lot of folks on the Supabase reddit have complained often about the insane downtimes that we've experienced at times with the platform. I would 100% use it for prototypes and MVPs, but for production? Neither me nor a lot of others would touch it with a pole, even though I'm sure your experience might be different.
ZiiS 2y ago
Supabase at is minimum providing a PostgreSQL server, pooler (they started on pgbouncer, how their own) and a PostREST API, and support, backup, logging etc. You can be doing serious business and not have the time/people to run these reliably self-hosted. They also provide Auth almost to the Auth0 level and Edge functions like Vercel, S3 like storage (sharing the db's permission system), and websocket/presence backed by Elixir. TBH they are a compelling value, at least for us.
- fakedang 2y ago
  Granted, Supabase does provide a lot under the hood, and it's excellent for whipping out a quick MVP, but I wouldn't count it production ready even today, simply because of the downtime I've experienced at times (even if their dashboards say otherwise). And it's not just an isolated case - a lot of folks on reddit complain with the same issues. Perhaps your treatment is different because of the high spend you guys have.
tootie 2y ago
My former place ran a lot of RDS Postgres but also loved Supabase. It's more than just hosted DB because it has loads of value adds like web-based table editing, auth, edge functions, row-level security, easy hooks and triggers. We were capable of operating RDS but the cost of operations in dev hours was high. Supabase was super easy for moderate price and readily compatible with our RDS and Redshift.
- fakedang 2y ago
  I don't disagree. Supabase does provide a lot of functions under the hood that one would have to build out individually otherwise. I really like their lock-in model - you're not locked in with your data, but because of the extra functionality that they provide to your database.