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How come this article has disappeared from HN front page ? Posted 2 hours ago and with 649 points
by kmitz 1y ago
How come this article has disappeared from HN front page ?
Posted 2 hours ago and with 649 points
- whalesalad 1y agoI was just asking myself the same thing.
- kmitz 1y agoThe faq says rankings can be affected by automated moderation. I'd appreciate to have this clarified by a mod if one happens to read my words. Thanks How are stories ranked? The basic algorithm divides points by a power of the time since a story was submitted. Comments in threads are ranked the same way. Other factors affecting rank include user flags, anti-abuse software, software which demotes overheated discussions, account or site weighting, and moderator action.
- whalesalad 1y ago> software which demotes overheated discussions i'm inclined to think this is it. can't have the populous too rowdy - gotta settle them down.
- nineplay 1y agoSounds like something Neville Chamberlain would have supported. We will at last have peace in our message boards.
- jerrygenser 1y agoIt's not flagged. Is it shadow banned? Is that a thing in hacker news?
- kmitz 1y agoI hope not. It would be such a disappointment.
- cluckindan 1y agoIt is a thing though
- mdhb 1y agoDang and other editors manually tweak things regularly to make sure stuff like this is not on the front page and consider that to be a feature not a bug and are not at all interested in listening to any criticism that maybe that’s not the right move in 2025.
- tomhow 1y agoThis is false. This story spent 18 hours on the front page seven days ago, and attracted over 1100 upvotes and over 600 comments. It also attracted dozens of community flags, but we turned off the flags in order to give the story full visibility. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43691142 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43691142
- mdhb 1y agoAre you really telling me with a straight face that there isn’t manual intervention every day to deemphasise political content? Like we are all watching it happen in real time. Every day the gap between what people are ACTUALLY voting for that’s only available on a hidden page (https://news.ycombinator.com/active https://news.ycombinator.com/active) not linked to from anywhere on the website as far as I can tell and what is presented as the most popular content is considerable.
- tomhow 1y agoDang has written about this at length several times over the years and did so again just three days ago: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20sni&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... We don't manually intervene to deemphasise content just because it's political, and indeed we often manually intervene to restore political stories to the front page when they have been automatically downweighted due to flags or flamewars. We moderate to optimize for intellectual curiosity, nothing more.
- mdhb 1y agoIt’s an awfully convenient bit of wording where nobody can pin you down on exactly what that means but only on what actions get taken. It’s what I’m referring to when I say that I’ve never once seen a moderator once consider their own judgement when presented with feedback. It’s always the same line. Things are running exactly as intended from your point of view it would seem.
- ineedasername 1y agoPossibly because Y now has some of its startups involved with DOGE and other government activities. Keep in mind that much of the techn world’s anarchocapitalism ideology being implemented came from or has been the “though leaders” or their behind this website.
- tomhow 1y agoYou guys! Paul Graham (the only "thought leader" behind this website) loudly campaigns against the current U.S. administration almost every day on Twitter. One YC-backed founder out of more than 10,000 is volunteering with DOGE. A more thorough response to this trope can be found here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43734897 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43734897
- sofixa 1y ago> Paul Graham (the only "thought leader" behind this website) loudly campaigns against the current U.S. administration almost every day on Twitter Does he? https://x.com/paulg https://x.com/paulg (maybe moderated by Musk/Twitter) only shows tweets about Gaza suffering which could be construed as criticising the current administration. On the contrary, I see multiple tweets jerking off Elon Musk (part of the current administration) and calling for compassion and personal sacrifice towards people who voted for Trump. Yes, there's "why you should vote for Kamala" tweet, but nothing critical of the current Trump regime. Let alone daily.
- tomhow 1y agoPerhaps you're not logged in and are only seeing the highlights from recent months? I see a steady stream of posts criticising the current administration – some of his own and some reposts of others – several in just the past few days.
- alphan0n 1y agoCan confirm, Paul is one of the few people I still pay attention to on Twitter.
- roflyear 1y agoStuff gets flagged as "flamebait" or something similar (forget the exact term) on HN - I think this can be done manually and is also automated, but it can definitely be turned off manually by mods - and it gets sent to the void b/c of risk of starting unwanted conversations.
- tomhow 1y agoYou guys! No topic has been anywhere near as heavily discussed this year on HN: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateEnd=1745332080&dateRange=custom&dateStart=1735689600&page=0&prefix=true&query=%22DOGE%22%20comments%3E50&sort=byPopularity&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateEnd=1745332080&dateRange=custom&...
- mdhb 1y agoOr censored. Don’t present this issue as a one way street it’s very clearly not the case.
- tomhow 1y agohttps://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20%22too%20crowded%22&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
- mdhb 1y agoA weird response specifically to a statement about it one sided responses. Show me all the flagged stories from this year along side it please.
- roflyear 1y agoSorry, I didn't mean to frame this in any way, just meant to say what's going on.
- PyWoody 1y agoIt's the top story on https://news.ycombinator.com/active https://news.ycombinator.com/active.
- morkalork 1y agoHuh, I've never seen "active" before, it looks like one of the hidden views like pool. Can't blame people for not seeing a thread there...
- diggan 1y agoBoy do I have news for you: https://news.ycombinator.com/lists https://news.ycombinator.com/lists Bunch of other fun links in the footer too :)