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What is the nicest programming environment which will run in this (and fit on a floppy)? Some small programming tool (nicer than Q/QuickBASIC) which had a nice

What is the nicest programming environment which will run in this (and fit on a floppy)? Some small programming tool (nicer than Q/QuickBASIC) which had a nice facility for creating a Text UI could be useful.

vekatimest 2y ago
Maybe Borland Turbo C? I also think Visual Basic for DOS had a text-mode UI editor.
- dmoo 2y ago
  Indeed VB for dos had a UI designer with buttons, forms, dialogue boxes etc.
_0ffh 2y ago
For nice, you might be interested in DJGPP/RHIDE. It's somewhat more than fits on a floppy disk though. https://www.delorie.com/djgpp/ https://www.delorie.com/djgpp/.
anta40 2y ago
Or Turbo Pascal...
- nopcode 2y ago
  Or the maintained open source alternative Free Pascal and its Free Pascal IDE.
int_19h 2y ago
It depends on the task. E.g. FoxPro 2.6 is basically proto-RAD, complete with visual form and report designers and an online help system, but it's too high-level for systems programming. Borland Pascal 7.0 is probably the sweet spot of power and convenience - no visual designers, but you get Turbo Vision for TUI, a very nice integrated help system, and decently powerful object-oriented language. Better yet, early versions of FreePascal that targeted 32-bit DOS. I don't think any of these would fit on a floppy, though; you'd have to unwind a little bit for that. Say, Turbo Pascal 5.5?
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snvzz 2y ago
Fasm comes with a cute small DOS IDE. Or ditch DOS and embrace Wirth's Oberon (the OS and language). There is a one-floppy build.
- WillAdams 2y ago
  Somewhere, I have a printout of the (quite slim in terms of page-count) Oberon manual --- turns out there is a Pi build: http://pascal.hansotten.com/niklaus-wirth/project-oberon/oberon-pi/ http://pascal.hansotten.com/niklaus-wirth/project-oberon/obe... will definitely have to experiment with that. EDIT: but it's apparently an emulated version? Perhaps: https://github.com/MGreim/ultiboberon https://github.com/MGreim/ultiboberon is better?
yardshop 2y ago
FreeDOS can also be put on a USB stick so you are not necessarily limited to the size of a floppy disk.

vekatimest 2y ago

Maybe Borland Turbo C? I also think Visual Basic for DOS had a text-mode UI editor.

dmoo 2y ago
Indeed VB for dos had a UI designer with buttons, forms, dialogue boxes etc.

_0ffh 2y ago

For nice, you might be interested in DJGPP/RHIDE. It's somewhat more than fits on a floppy disk though. https://www.delorie.com/djgpp/ https://www.delorie.com/djgpp/.

anta40 2y ago

Or Turbo Pascal...

nopcode 2y ago
Or the maintained open source alternative Free Pascal and its Free Pascal IDE.

int_19h 2y ago

It depends on the task. E.g. FoxPro 2.6 is basically proto-RAD, complete with visual form and report designers and an online help system, but it's too high-level for systems programming. Borland Pascal 7.0 is probably the sweet spot of power and convenience - no visual designers, but you get Turbo Vision for TUI, a very nice integrated help system, and decently powerful object-oriented language. Better yet, early versions of FreePascal that targeted 32-bit DOS. I don't think any of these would fit on a floppy, though; you'd have to unwind a little bit for that. Say, Turbo Pascal 5.5?

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snvzz 2y ago

Fasm comes with a cute small DOS IDE. Or ditch DOS and embrace Wirth's Oberon (the OS and language). There is a one-floppy build.

WillAdams 2y ago
Somewhere, I have a printout of the (quite slim in terms of page-count) Oberon manual --- turns out there is a Pi build: http://pascal.hansotten.com/niklaus-wirth/project-oberon/oberon-pi/ http://pascal.hansotten.com/niklaus-wirth/project-oberon/obe... will definitely have to experiment with that. EDIT: but it's apparently an emulated version? Perhaps: https://github.com/MGreim/ultiboberon https://github.com/MGreim/ultiboberon is better?

yardshop 2y ago

FreeDOS can also be put on a USB stick so you are not necessarily limited to the size of a floppy disk.