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The pattern has been that they don't particularly care about getting caught. The goal is to sow chaos, rather than any specific task. They like to goad you into

The pattern has been that they don't particularly care about getting caught. The goal is to sow chaos, rather than any specific task. They like to goad you into making mistakes. What do they want with NLRB days in the first place? Maybe they have an idea; maybe not. The goal is "we got your data, be worried". Getting caught furthers that.

dinoqqq 2y ago
I'm not so sure. Look at the bargaining power in geopolitics a country gets, when they know a certain country hacked them (Dem. hacks, Clinton email hacks, by Russia). It is always better to hide your tracks or to blaim someone else. Especially if it can be done easily.
- freen 2y ago
  Remember: the Russians also hacked the Republican email server as well, just, those emails were never released.
  - galangalalgol 2y ago
    I forgot about that, so what you are saying is that all these gop legislators that are suddenly pro Russia aren't true believers? That is maybe better. The use of the nlrb data on the other hand is pretty clear. They had a number of ongoing cases against Musk's companies. Involving Russia is unnecessary to explain the motive.
- XorNot 2y ago
  The Russians assassinated someone on British soil using a radioactive agent that can only be made in nuclear reactors, and is incredibly expensive to extract and transport. There are literally dozens of ways to kill a guy, if you must poison him, which are cheaper in every possible way and can be sourced locally by someone with the sort of basic chemistry knowledge an intelligence agency would have on payroll, or from a drunk undergrad. Which is to say: Russia's MO has at no point been "subtlety", it's been vranyo: a lie they tell where you know they're lying, but are obliged to pretend the other party is not.
FireBeyond 2y ago
They don't care, and also, their expectation from DOGE was probably "Logging is turned off, here's the credentials, go".

dinoqqq 2y ago

I'm not so sure. Look at the bargaining power in geopolitics a country gets, when they know a certain country hacked them (Dem. hacks, Clinton email hacks, by Russia). It is always better to hide your tracks or to blaim someone else. Especially if it can be done easily.

freen 2y ago
Remember: the Russians also hacked the Republican email server as well, just, those emails were never released.
- galangalalgol 2y ago
  I forgot about that, so what you are saying is that all these gop legislators that are suddenly pro Russia aren't true believers? That is maybe better. The use of the nlrb data on the other hand is pretty clear. They had a number of ongoing cases against Musk's companies. Involving Russia is unnecessary to explain the motive.
XorNot 2y ago
The Russians assassinated someone on British soil using a radioactive agent that can only be made in nuclear reactors, and is incredibly expensive to extract and transport. There are literally dozens of ways to kill a guy, if you must poison him, which are cheaper in every possible way and can be sourced locally by someone with the sort of basic chemistry knowledge an intelligence agency would have on payroll, or from a drunk undergrad. Which is to say: Russia's MO has at no point been "subtlety", it's been vranyo: a lie they tell where you know they're lying, but are obliged to pretend the other party is not.

FireBeyond 2y ago

They don't care, and also, their expectation from DOGE was probably "Logging is turned off, here's the credentials, go".