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Days of food at home absolutely. Some water containers ready to go yes. Some heating source either alcohol or gas bottles, reasonable and not big investments.

by Ekaros 2y ago

Days of food at home absolutely. Some water containers ready to go yes. Some heating source either alcohol or gas bottles, reasonable and not big investments. Going to weeks or months start to be reach. And beyond that, what are you expecting to come back to? Subsistence farming? That is a very large step up... And well then you have lot of people to compete with. If we are talking about total systemic collapse, well that is very complex mess to prepare for. On other side large scale wars, well probably some support will come relatively quickly.

ghaff 2y ago
Given the relative practicality of disruptions of various types there were a ton of sensible things you could do for a few hundred dollars that weren’t really wasted money anyway. You didn’t need to fill rooms and load up on the automatic weapons and ammunition.
- decimalenough 2y ago
  This is such a US thing. A rifle for hunting and self-defense, sure. Piles of fully automatic AK-47s that chew through 600 rounds per minute, not much. And the old trope about ammo becoming currency, has this ever actually been a thing anywhere?
  - ghaff 2y ago
    I was being somewhat sarcastic and hyperbolic. Fully automatic weapons aren’t even legally sold.
  - pjc50 2y ago
    There's an interesting paper from WW2 about the shadow economy of a prisoner of war camp, fuelled by imports of Red Cross humanitarian parcels. Cigarettes became currency even among non-smokers. I'm not sure what the equivalent goods would be now.
    - decimalenough 2y ago
      Cans of tuna serve the same purpose in many jails.
ben_w 2y ago
Two weeks of food shouldn't be hard for most people on this forum. There's a lot of people whose financial situation is so permanently on edge that they can't do that kind of preparation for a healthy balance diet*, but for everyone here, two weeks should be fine. IIRC, Mormons store a few months stockpile as standard. * For an unhealthy diet, my university meal planning for a significant fraction of each semester was two large bowls of cereal in the morning and ramen noodles for dinner. I didn't realise how far below my caloric requirements that was until comments on this forum many years later. But that cost 50p/day in the UK in 2004, and if you're consuming 500ml of UHT milk/person/day then the six litre multipack one person can lug up a hill with no car will last 12 days before needing replacement, while dried grains and cereals like oats, rice, etc. are even easier to stockpile.
- from-nibly 2y ago
  Not everyone I know has months of food storage, but I know a couple who lost their job during the pandemic and it helped them get through that. Food storage is not just for apocalypse type stuff. It's for what the heck ever.

by Ekaros 2y ago

ghaff 2y ago

Given the relative practicality of disruptions of various types there were a ton of sensible things you could do for a few hundred dollars that weren’t really wasted money anyway. You didn’t need to fill rooms and load up on the automatic weapons and ammunition.

decimalenough 2y ago
This is such a US thing. A rifle for hunting and self-defense, sure. Piles of fully automatic AK-47s that chew through 600 rounds per minute, not much. And the old trope about ammo becoming currency, has this ever actually been a thing anywhere?
- ghaff 2y ago
  I was being somewhat sarcastic and hyperbolic. Fully automatic weapons aren’t even legally sold.
- pjc50 2y ago
  There's an interesting paper from WW2 about the shadow economy of a prisoner of war camp, fuelled by imports of Red Cross humanitarian parcels. Cigarettes became currency even among non-smokers. I'm not sure what the equivalent goods would be now.
  - decimalenough 2y ago
    Cans of tuna serve the same purpose in many jails.

ben_w 2y ago

Two weeks of food shouldn't be hard for most people on this forum. There's a lot of people whose financial situation is so permanently on edge that they can't do that kind of preparation for a healthy balance diet*, but for everyone here, two weeks should be fine. IIRC, Mormons store a few months stockpile as standard. * For an unhealthy diet, my university meal planning for a significant fraction of each semester was two large bowls of cereal in the morning and ramen noodles for dinner. I didn't realise how far below my caloric requirements that was until comments on this forum many years later. But that cost 50p/day in the UK in 2004, and if you're consuming 500ml of UHT milk/person/day then the six litre multipack one person can lug up a hill with no car will last 12 days before needing replacement, while dried grains and cereals like oats, rice, etc. are even easier to stockpile.

from-nibly 2y ago
Not everyone I know has months of food storage, but I know a couple who lost their job during the pandemic and it helped them get through that. Food storage is not just for apocalypse type stuff. It's for what the heck ever.