"So all that easiness of PHP is all wrong. If you want to do it right, it's not easy." However, much of the time getting people to do it at all is harder than

"So all that easiness of PHP is all wrong. If you want to do it right, it's not easy." However, much of the time getting people to do it at all is harder than getting them to do it right after they're doing something. PHP makes it easy to start doing something and see results, and that immediate reward prompts those who wouldn't otherwise get that far. A coupla weeks ago, tptacek made this point, and I think it applies here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=418157 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=418157 [Edit: to be clear, tptacek may not have specifically been talking about PHP, but about the fact that writing lots of code is an indicator of total usefulness even if the code is currently bad or inappropriate.]