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It doesn't need its own domain, but the Twitter format is so limited, I'm not very likely to visit this again even though it was quite entertaining. Maybe make

by Udo 14y ago

It doesn't need its own domain, but the Twitter format is so limited, I'm not very likely to visit this again even though it was quite entertaining. Maybe make it a blog instead? It doesn't need its own domain or anything. > Not to execute a cool-lean-webscale-startup. Now you're just attacking a straw man, aren't you? :)

Sirupsen 14y ago
It'd be more difficult to get people to subscribe to a blog. Keeping it light hearted on Twitter is great for a little fun service such as this—of course only for those who are already on Twitter.. :)
- Udo 14y ago
  That's probably true. Still, I wish they had links.
narcan 14y ago
You don't use Twitter by visiting individual accounts. Pro-tip: Try the 'follow' feature.
- Udo 14y ago
  You really just made a new HN account only so you could diss me. Protip: Let that sink in for a moment.
  - Afal 14y ago
    Does making a new account make them any less wrong? You really just dismissing something someone said just because they're new? Protip: Let that sink in for a moment.
    - dsirijus 14y ago
      Leave that sink alone, all of you.
    - Udo 14y ago
      First off, it's not the content, it's the tone that is deplorable. "narcan" knows this, that's why he created a new account instead of using his regular one. Seriously, look at his profile, it has been created (and rewarded with karma) for just this single polemic post. At least when I say something unpopular or downright insulting, I still have enough integrity to say it in person instead of through sock puppets - not that I remember ever stooping as low as "narcan" in either form or content, but that's a matter of opinion. Also, when did it become OK to talk like that on HN? It's getting to a point where I don't recognize this place anymore. But about the content, does it really sound reasonable to you that I don't know how Twitter works? Does it strike you as plausible that my critique about the execution of this idea stems from my inability to understand the follow button?
      - Afal 14y ago
        So wait, you got offended by someone because their post implied that you didn't know how twitter works? That's pretty funny. Also, when did mild animosity get associated with "average 4chan behaviour"? 4chan is not the birthplace or the only place where people are immature on the internet. So ok, you probably don't have a twitter account. Ok, you're one of those people that prefer RSS feeds for everything and you know what? There's nothing wrong with that. I mean you could use the twitter api and get the rss feed for it (http://api.twitter.com/1/statuses/user_timeline.rss?screen_name=shit_hn_says http://api.twitter.com/1/statuses/user_timeline.rss?screen_n... would be the one for this particular twitter account) but that's not the reason why you don't like this format. Apparently the reason you have such reservations for this twitter account is because there's a "lack of context" or "140 chars is too limited". With the lack of context I agree it's a bit of a problem but It's not anything that a simple google search can't find. Plus, in many cases you don't need any context. These quotes can be self contained without knowing when and which thread they were said. These are quotes which are likely to pop up in any HN thread. As for the "limitations" issue, I don't see the problem. What do you expect? A huge essay on why a quote is silly? As far as I can see, the format that the creator has chosen and has displayed works pretty well. I can't think of anything else that could be added to it or any problems coming from this because of "limitations". The twitter format doesn't work for you. We see that. That doesn't mean that this is a "poor execution" and that it could be improved. Not everything should be the most perfect execution. Sometimes something as simple as a twitter account works and it's clear that from some of the posts in this thread, that it works fairly well.
- icebraining 14y ago
  Guess what: not everyone has a Twitter account. Freaky, I know. And before you tell me how I expect to follow Twitter accounts without one of my own, let me tell you that I follow dozens of blogs without having an account in any of them or their platforms.
  - barik 14y ago
    "Guess what: not everyone has a Twitter account. Freaky, I know." I think Twitter is absolutely the right way to go on something like this. Your post is even more peculiar since Twitter supports RSS. [1] Does your reader not support RSS? (Okay, okay, somewhat tongue-in-cheek, since it actually __isn't__ all that obvious that Twitter does support it; I had to Google it myself). [1] Here's the one for shit_hn_says: http://twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline/752430234.rss http://twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline/752430234.rss Add it to Google Reader and enjoy! You don't need a Twitter account, so your major concern should be alleviated at this point.
    - icebraining 14y ago
      I'm not constantly mentioning I don't have a Twitter account. I mentioned it because it's relevant. Your post is even more peculiar since Twitter supports RSS [2]. Does your blog client not support RSS? It does, I just wasn't aware that Twitter supported RSS, since nowhere in the page (not even in the source) do they link to it. Can one find its URL without doing arcane magic? That said, the I do agree that Twitter is a decent place to publish these, although it still has the length limit that prevents them from putting links to the comments.
      - res0nat0r 14y ago
        > Can one find its URL without doing arcane magic? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=twitter+rss&l=1 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=twitter+rss&l=1
        barik 14y ago
        How is this not arcane magic, though? Twitter should have used a meta tag so that the RSS feed would be auto-discovered by any relatively modern RSS client. But their recent actions suggest that their interest is not making it easy to use third-party systems outside of Twitter proper. I think icebraining's point is a legitimate one, because it isn't obvious that RSS exists in the first place.
RyanMcGreal 14y ago
"Now you're just attacking a straw man, aren't you? :)" Watch for this on ShitHNSays...
mattschoch 14y ago
"It doesn't need its own domain, but the Twitter format is so limited.." You're right. This would be so much better on app.net.

by Udo 14y ago

Sirupsen 14y ago

It'd be more difficult to get people to subscribe to a blog. Keeping it light hearted on Twitter is great for a little fun service such as this—of course only for those who are already on Twitter.. :)

Udo 14y ago
That's probably true. Still, I wish they had links.

narcan 14y ago

You don't use Twitter by visiting individual accounts. Pro-tip: Try the 'follow' feature.

Udo 14y ago
You really just made a new HN account only so you could diss me. Protip: Let that sink in for a moment.
- Afal 14y ago
  Does making a new account make them any less wrong? You really just dismissing something someone said just because they're new? Protip: Let that sink in for a moment.
  - dsirijus 14y ago
    Leave that sink alone, all of you.
  - Udo 14y ago
    First off, it's not the content, it's the tone that is deplorable. "narcan" knows this, that's why he created a new account instead of using his regular one. Seriously, look at his profile, it has been created (and rewarded with karma) for just this single polemic post. At least when I say something unpopular or downright insulting, I still have enough integrity to say it in person instead of through sock puppets - not that I remember ever stooping as low as "narcan" in either form or content, but that's a matter of opinion. Also, when did it become OK to talk like that on HN? It's getting to a point where I don't recognize this place anymore. But about the content, does it really sound reasonable to you that I don't know how Twitter works? Does it strike you as plausible that my critique about the execution of this idea stems from my inability to understand the follow button?
    - Afal 14y ago
      So wait, you got offended by someone because their post implied that you didn't know how twitter works? That's pretty funny. Also, when did mild animosity get associated with "average 4chan behaviour"? 4chan is not the birthplace or the only place where people are immature on the internet. So ok, you probably don't have a twitter account. Ok, you're one of those people that prefer RSS feeds for everything and you know what? There's nothing wrong with that. I mean you could use the twitter api and get the rss feed for it (http://api.twitter.com/1/statuses/user_timeline.rss?screen_name=shit_hn_says http://api.twitter.com/1/statuses/user_timeline.rss?screen_n... would be the one for this particular twitter account) but that's not the reason why you don't like this format. Apparently the reason you have such reservations for this twitter account is because there's a "lack of context" or "140 chars is too limited". With the lack of context I agree it's a bit of a problem but It's not anything that a simple google search can't find. Plus, in many cases you don't need any context. These quotes can be self contained without knowing when and which thread they were said. These are quotes which are likely to pop up in any HN thread. As for the "limitations" issue, I don't see the problem. What do you expect? A huge essay on why a quote is silly? As far as I can see, the format that the creator has chosen and has displayed works pretty well. I can't think of anything else that could be added to it or any problems coming from this because of "limitations". The twitter format doesn't work for you. We see that. That doesn't mean that this is a "poor execution" and that it could be improved. Not everything should be the most perfect execution. Sometimes something as simple as a twitter account works and it's clear that from some of the posts in this thread, that it works fairly well.
icebraining 14y ago
Guess what: not everyone has a Twitter account. Freaky, I know. And before you tell me how I expect to follow Twitter accounts without one of my own, let me tell you that I follow dozens of blogs without having an account in any of them or their platforms.
- barik 14y ago
  "Guess what: not everyone has a Twitter account. Freaky, I know." I think Twitter is absolutely the right way to go on something like this. Your post is even more peculiar since Twitter supports RSS. [1] Does your reader not support RSS? (Okay, okay, somewhat tongue-in-cheek, since it actually __isn't__ all that obvious that Twitter does support it; I had to Google it myself). [1] Here's the one for shit_hn_says: http://twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline/752430234.rss http://twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline/752430234.rss Add it to Google Reader and enjoy! You don't need a Twitter account, so your major concern should be alleviated at this point.
  - icebraining 14y ago
    I'm not constantly mentioning I don't have a Twitter account. I mentioned it because it's relevant. Your post is even more peculiar since Twitter supports RSS [2]. Does your blog client not support RSS? It does, I just wasn't aware that Twitter supported RSS, since nowhere in the page (not even in the source) do they link to it. Can one find its URL without doing arcane magic? That said, the I do agree that Twitter is a decent place to publish these, although it still has the length limit that prevents them from putting links to the comments.
    - res0nat0r 14y ago
      > Can one find its URL without doing arcane magic? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=twitter+rss&l=1 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=twitter+rss&l=1
      - barik 14y ago
        How is this not arcane magic, though? Twitter should have used a meta tag so that the RSS feed would be auto-discovered by any relatively modern RSS client. But their recent actions suggest that their interest is not making it easy to use third-party systems outside of Twitter proper. I think icebraining's point is a legitimate one, because it isn't obvious that RSS exists in the first place.

RyanMcGreal 14y ago

"Now you're just attacking a straw man, aren't you? :)" Watch for this on ShitHNSays...

mattschoch 14y ago

"It doesn't need its own domain, but the Twitter format is so limited.." You're right. This would be so much better on app.net.