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That sucks, because if you’re catholic and you _dont_ support the pope…you’re not really a catholic

by throwawaybob420 1y ago

rgreek42 1y ago
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- throwawaybob420 1y ago
  that’s HN for ya
- jenadine 1y ago
  There is more to catholicism than just liking the pope.
- prometheus76 1y ago
  I don't know exactly what you mean by "support the Pope", but your simple binary division between "Roman Catholic or Protestant" ignores a lot of the historical tensions between the Orthodox Church and the Roman Catholic Church. There's also the whole issue with the Oriental Orthodox Church, which went into schism after the Fourth Ecumenical Council, which was LONG before the Great Schism in 1054. How do they fit into your categorization? You might find it interesting to study more details about the history of Christianity. It's not so simple as "Love Pope or Reject Pope."
- amanaplanacanal 1y ago
  Not exactly the same, but this sounds very similar to saying "if you don't support the president, you're not an American".
Loughla 1y ago
You're correct. For many modern Catholics, it's about inertia. They've always been Catholic, but they want to do it their way. That's the entire purpose of the Catholic Church - to tell you exactly how to do church. Is also why there are so many converts from Catholicism to New age sorts of Christian churches.
RHSeeger 1y ago
It is possible to be a Catholic and not support the direction that the Pope is taking the church; in the same way it is possible to disagree with the direction that the local priest is taking the parish. It is possible to look at someone as the leader of an organization you are part of, and treat them with respect, while not agreeing with every choice they make.
mvieira38 1y ago
Catholics are not obliged to follow the pope in matters not related to faith and morals, and even then not when he speaks as a private person instead of in the voice of the Church (the same sex marriage interview as a prime example where he directly states it is his own private opinion). Though every catholic IS obliged to pray for the pope and defend his legitimacy and claim to power, which I suppose could constitute a degree of obligatory support

That sucks, because if you’re catholic and you _dont_ support the pope…you’re not really a catholic

rgreek42 1y ago

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throwawaybob420 1y ago
that’s HN for ya
jenadine 1y ago
There is more to catholicism than just liking the pope.
prometheus76 1y ago
I don't know exactly what you mean by "support the Pope", but your simple binary division between "Roman Catholic or Protestant" ignores a lot of the historical tensions between the Orthodox Church and the Roman Catholic Church. There's also the whole issue with the Oriental Orthodox Church, which went into schism after the Fourth Ecumenical Council, which was LONG before the Great Schism in 1054. How do they fit into your categorization? You might find it interesting to study more details about the history of Christianity. It's not so simple as "Love Pope or Reject Pope."
amanaplanacanal 1y ago
Not exactly the same, but this sounds very similar to saying "if you don't support the president, you're not an American".

Loughla 1y ago

You're correct. For many modern Catholics, it's about inertia. They've always been Catholic, but they want to do it their way. That's the entire purpose of the Catholic Church - to tell you exactly how to do church. Is also why there are so many converts from Catholicism to New age sorts of Christian churches.

RHSeeger 1y ago

It is possible to be a Catholic and not support the direction that the Pope is taking the church; in the same way it is possible to disagree with the direction that the local priest is taking the parish. It is possible to look at someone as the leader of an organization you are part of, and treat them with respect, while not agreeing with every choice they make.

mvieira38 1y ago

Catholics are not obliged to follow the pope in matters not related to faith and morals, and even then not when he speaks as a private person instead of in the voice of the Church (the same sex marriage interview as a prime example where he directly states it is his own private opinion). Though every catholic IS obliged to pray for the pope and defend his legitimacy and claim to power, which I suppose could constitute a degree of obligatory support