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> .. even as an atheist lots of christians didn't like him, considering he was too progressive

by yodsanklai 2y ago

conductr 2y ago
I think these are two sides of the same coin
kome 2y ago
i saw this only on the internet tho, and mainly the english speaking internet, never in real life.
- inemesitaffia 2y ago
  This just isn't true. Anyone who hangs around people who follow the church happenings would know even if they were in support of his actions.
numbers_guy 2y ago
Only American Protesting Catholics had issues with him. The same ones that post Deus Vult memes on Facebook.
- gambiting 2y ago
  Plenty(well, some) Catholics in Poland had an issue with him for the exact same reason - just way too progressive for them. Although I do think that American Catholics are particularly.....fervent in their beliefs.
- somenameforme 2y ago
  Look up some numbers, his approval ratings outside of America were rapidly declining (at least in Latin America). [1] Interestingly the US is the one place where his approval ratings didn't decline over time, probably owing to the perfectly divided nature of contemporary politics. As he lost support from one side he gained it in equal proportions from the other. But in places like Argentina, his birth place no less, his approval rating dropped 27 points as he got increasingly involved in Progressive stuff. [1] - https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/09/26/how-people-in-latin-america-and-the-u-s-view-pope-francis/ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/09/26/how-peopl...
  - hoseja 2y ago
    I saw a map of countries he visited as the Pope and Argentina wasn't even there. Feels really strange.
- yodsanklai 2y ago
  One data point, but I live in a progressive country in western Europe, and I have close family members who are in the "right wing / trumpist / christians" movement (which does exist in Europe too), and obviously they really disliked this pope.
kergonath 2y ago
On the other hand, lots of christians liked him because he was progressive (more than his predecessor, anyway). Catholics are not all fundamentalists and in general don’t have much in common with the catholics bishops in the US, who are for the most part downright medieval.

> .. even as an atheist lots of christians didn't like him, considering he was too progressive

conductr 2y ago

I think these are two sides of the same coin

kome 2y ago

i saw this only on the internet tho, and mainly the english speaking internet, never in real life.

inemesitaffia 2y ago
This just isn't true. Anyone who hangs around people who follow the church happenings would know even if they were in support of his actions.

numbers_guy 2y ago

Only American Protesting Catholics had issues with him. The same ones that post Deus Vult memes on Facebook.

gambiting 2y ago
Plenty(well, some) Catholics in Poland had an issue with him for the exact same reason - just way too progressive for them. Although I do think that American Catholics are particularly.....fervent in their beliefs.
somenameforme 2y ago
Look up some numbers, his approval ratings outside of America were rapidly declining (at least in Latin America). [1] Interestingly the US is the one place where his approval ratings didn't decline over time, probably owing to the perfectly divided nature of contemporary politics. As he lost support from one side he gained it in equal proportions from the other. But in places like Argentina, his birth place no less, his approval rating dropped 27 points as he got increasingly involved in Progressive stuff. [1] - https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/09/26/how-people-in-latin-america-and-the-u-s-view-pope-francis/ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/09/26/how-peopl...
- hoseja 2y ago
  I saw a map of countries he visited as the Pope and Argentina wasn't even there. Feels really strange.
yodsanklai 2y ago
One data point, but I live in a progressive country in western Europe, and I have close family members who are in the "right wing / trumpist / christians" movement (which does exist in Europe too), and obviously they really disliked this pope.

kergonath 2y ago

On the other hand, lots of christians liked him because he was progressive (more than his predecessor, anyway). Catholics are not all fundamentalists and in general don’t have much in common with the catholics bishops in the US, who are for the most part downright medieval.