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lightbritefight 2y ago
Do you have a soul? Do I? You can indeed live a life in fear of holy retribution, but you do not have the right to force others to do so as well.
- gjsman-1000 2y ago
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  - saagarjha 2y ago
    I think trying to appeal to divine authority is unlikely to get you far with a group of people who reject divine authority.
    - gjsman-1000 2y ago
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      - saagarjha 2y ago
        I didn't say anything; I'm not the person you were replying to. But I will say that I suspect your arguments that God has the authority over a document people wrote is, again, unlikely to find an audience among those who don't think He exists.
    - giantg2 2y ago
      I'm not sure why people get religious about this. The far more interesting approach is to try to use reason along side other current laws to determine the answer to two questions - what defines a human life, and when is it acceptable to take one? For example, trying to compare things like medical support for preterm babies to medical support of coma patients to investigate the logic behind viable fetuses vs various life support methods, etc.
      - h3half 2y ago
        A similar interesting situation is how in some cases murdering a pregnant woman counts as a double homicide because the law includes the unborn child
anakaine 2y ago
If you prescribed to that particular facet of belief, that is are you problem. Don't try and push your dogmatic views down others throats.
- gjsman-1000 2y ago
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  - anakaine 2y ago
    Case in point, quit waving your religious dogma in my face. Its not wanted. I've no desire, and quite frankly, absolutely no need, to be careful what I bet on in terms of beliefs. Anything that requires belief without proof meeting even the most meagre bar height is nonsense. Since you seem to be giving others here a hard time about Abrahamic ideas of belief, hell, and morals, I'll leave you with a quote from your own book: Matthew 6:1: “Beware of practicing your righteousness before men to be noticed by them; otherwise you have no reward with your Father who is in heaven.
  - shakna 2y ago
    Each of those has sects that do not follow the talking point you're putting forward. If it isn't clear to them, then by what right do you get to declare the truth for everyone else? Go debate some more, before trying to unilaterally rule for all mankind.
  - samtheDamned 2y ago
    Islam typically sides with people doing what they have to to live, including eating pork if that is what it takes to survive. In regards to abortion, the mothers life takes paramount.
  - cthalupa 2y ago
    For most of it's history Protestantism did not take any specific issue with abortion and considered it a weird Catholic thing similar to their views on birth control. It wasn't until the 1960s that this shifted, largely due to political machinations.

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Do you have a soul? Do I? You can indeed live a life in fear of holy retribution, but you do not have the right to force others to do so as well.

gjsman-1000 2y ago
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- saagarjha 2y ago
  I think trying to appeal to divine authority is unlikely to get you far with a group of people who reject divine authority.
  - gjsman-1000 2y ago
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    - saagarjha 2y ago
      I didn't say anything; I'm not the person you were replying to. But I will say that I suspect your arguments that God has the authority over a document people wrote is, again, unlikely to find an audience among those who don't think He exists.
  - giantg2 2y ago
    I'm not sure why people get religious about this. The far more interesting approach is to try to use reason along side other current laws to determine the answer to two questions - what defines a human life, and when is it acceptable to take one? For example, trying to compare things like medical support for preterm babies to medical support of coma patients to investigate the logic behind viable fetuses vs various life support methods, etc.
    - h3half 2y ago
      A similar interesting situation is how in some cases murdering a pregnant woman counts as a double homicide because the law includes the unborn child

anakaine 2y ago

If you prescribed to that particular facet of belief, that is are you problem. Don't try and push your dogmatic views down others throats.

gjsman-1000 2y ago
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- anakaine 2y ago
  Case in point, quit waving your religious dogma in my face. Its not wanted. I've no desire, and quite frankly, absolutely no need, to be careful what I bet on in terms of beliefs. Anything that requires belief without proof meeting even the most meagre bar height is nonsense. Since you seem to be giving others here a hard time about Abrahamic ideas of belief, hell, and morals, I'll leave you with a quote from your own book: Matthew 6:1: “Beware of practicing your righteousness before men to be noticed by them; otherwise you have no reward with your Father who is in heaven.
- shakna 2y ago
  Each of those has sects that do not follow the talking point you're putting forward. If it isn't clear to them, then by what right do you get to declare the truth for everyone else? Go debate some more, before trying to unilaterally rule for all mankind.
- samtheDamned 2y ago
  Islam typically sides with people doing what they have to to live, including eating pork if that is what it takes to survive. In regards to abortion, the mothers life takes paramount.
- cthalupa 2y ago
  For most of it's history Protestantism did not take any specific issue with abortion and considered it a weird Catholic thing similar to their views on birth control. It wasn't until the 1960s that this shifted, largely due to political machinations.