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I’ve switched off of chatGPT for general use from a kind of moral/ethical standpoint. All the competitors are effectively the same for easy research questions,

by soared 1y ago

I’ve switched off of chatGPT for general use from a kind of moral/ethical standpoint. All the competitors are effectively the same for easy research questions, so I might as well use a vendor who’s not potentially a scumbag.

dangus 1y ago
Which vendor isn't a run scumbag or owned by a scumbag?
- trollbridge 1y ago
  I’ve been using Grok (for free), so in theory I’m getting a vendor to spend money on me.
  - asadotzler 1y ago
    >Which vendor isn't a run scumbag or owned by a scumbag? >>I’ve been using Grok The biggest scumbag of them all, but hey "I use it for free."
  - dangus 1y ago
    But they can count you as a user and that positively impacts their valuation.
    - nativeit 1y ago
      One of the many inverted incentives in this space, considering every user Grok counts is actively burning through their cash.
  - nsonha 1y ago
    Grok one of the two big brands of model associated with a social network? They're not qualified to even be considered.
    - trollbridge 1y ago
      Grok works fine for generating images, summarising documentation etc., and surprisingly most stuff is now easily usable on the free tier.
AndrewKemendo 1y ago
Which one did you move to? I haven’t found as good of an turnkey chat/search/gen interface as CGPT yet unfortunately. Even self hosted deepseek on an Ada machine doesn’t get there cause the open source interfaces are still bad
- soared 1y ago
  Gemini primarily - but I’m using it for help with house projects, landscaping, shopping, etc and not for coding. Not not a scumbag owner but feels better than OpenAI.
  - itwillnotbeasy 1y ago
    Weird choice, given Google’s track record on privacy. Gemini uses your chats for training and human review them by default. You can opt out by turning off App Activity, but that disables chat history and integrations, which kinda kinda makes it useless. Claude respects your privacy by default and ChatGPT and Grok have an opt-out that doesn’t totally cripple the app. So what makes Google less scummy? A cheaper price? I’m sure that won’t last long – they’ve played this game before with YouTube, Google Reader, and Search: hook users, dominate, then enshittify. Same old Google playbook: good → monopoly → crap.

by soared 1y ago

dangus 1y ago

Which vendor isn't a run scumbag or owned by a scumbag?

trollbridge 1y ago
I’ve been using Grok (for free), so in theory I’m getting a vendor to spend money on me.
- asadotzler 1y ago
  >Which vendor isn't a run scumbag or owned by a scumbag? >>I’ve been using Grok The biggest scumbag of them all, but hey "I use it for free."
- dangus 1y ago
  But they can count you as a user and that positively impacts their valuation.
  - nativeit 1y ago
    One of the many inverted incentives in this space, considering every user Grok counts is actively burning through their cash.
- nsonha 1y ago
  Grok one of the two big brands of model associated with a social network? They're not qualified to even be considered.
  - trollbridge 1y ago
    Grok works fine for generating images, summarising documentation etc., and surprisingly most stuff is now easily usable on the free tier.

AndrewKemendo 1y ago

Which one did you move to? I haven’t found as good of an turnkey chat/search/gen interface as CGPT yet unfortunately. Even self hosted deepseek on an Ada machine doesn’t get there cause the open source interfaces are still bad

soared 1y ago
Gemini primarily - but I’m using it for help with house projects, landscaping, shopping, etc and not for coding. Not not a scumbag owner but feels better than OpenAI.
- itwillnotbeasy 1y ago
  Weird choice, given Google’s track record on privacy. Gemini uses your chats for training and human review them by default. You can opt out by turning off App Activity, but that disables chat history and integrations, which kinda kinda makes it useless. Claude respects your privacy by default and ChatGPT and Grok have an opt-out that doesn’t totally cripple the app. So what makes Google less scummy? A cheaper price? I’m sure that won’t last long – they’ve played this game before with YouTube, Google Reader, and Search: hook users, dominate, then enshittify. Same old Google playbook: good → monopoly → crap.