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My pet peeve is that using the term "AI crawler" for this conflates things unnecessarily. There's some people who are angry at it due to anti-AI bias and not wi
by CaptainFever 1y ago
My pet peeve is that using the term "AI crawler" for this conflates things unnecessarily. There's some people who are angry at it due to anti-AI bias and not wishing to share information, while there are others who are more concerned about it due to the large amount of bandwidth and server overloading.
Not to mention that it's unknown if these are actually from AI companies, or from people pretending to be AI companies. You can set anything as your user agent.
It's more appropriate to mention the specific issue one haves about the crawlers, like "they request things too quickly" or "they're overloading my server". Then from there, it is easier to come to a solution than just "I hate AI". For example, one would realize that things like Anubis have existed forever, they are just called DDoS protection, specifically those using proof-of-work schemes (e.g. https://github.com/RuiSiang/PoW-Shield https://github.com/RuiSiang/PoW-Shield).
This also shifts the discussion away from something that adds to the discrimination against scraping in general, and more towards what is actually the issue: overloading servers, or in other words, DDoS.
- johnnyanmac 1y agoIt's become unbearable in the "AI era". So it's appropriate to blame AI for it, ib my eyes. Especially since so much defense is based aroind training LLMs. It's just like how not all Ddoss's are actually hackers or bots. Sometimes a server just can't take the traffic of a large site flooding in. But the result is the same until something is investigated.
- queenkjuul 1y agoIt's not a coincidence that this wasn't a major problem until everybody and their dog started trying to build the next great LLM.