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What percentage of companies can hire an engineer who writes better code than o3?

by neural_thing 1y ago

DaSHacka 1y ago
100%
- neural_thing 1y ago
  highly doubt that
  - biglyburrito 1y ago
    Then why ask the question, if you're so sure of the answer?
kbelder 1y ago
I'm a big booster of AI, but this doesn't even make sense. Any project using even the very best code generator in existence is going to need to be stewarded and tightly monitored by a competent programmer. AI is miraculous, but can't do crap reliably on it's own.
vunderba 1y ago
Given that o3 just spun its wheels endlessly trying to correct a CSS issue by suggesting to create a "tailwind.config.X" file despite being given the package JSON which contained a clear reference to Tailwind 4x - I'd say any engineer capable of reading and learning from basic documentation. For reference, Tailwind 4 will not read in config files by default (which is the older behavior) - the encouraged practice is to configure customizations directly in the CSS file where you import Tailwind itself.
- pyfon 1y ago
  Is breaking API changes how we defeat the killer robots?
- herbst 1y ago
  Tell the AI to comment above the include why it uses a specific version, ask it to document the version and it's specific quirks after fixing it with it. Not sure how o3 is generally at coding, but this kind of meta information works well for me to avoid version missmatches with Claude and Gemini It's kinda important that the AI finds the issues itself so it can properly document it in her own words.
only-one1701 1y ago
This question isn’t useful without context. But yes the answer is probably 100%.
Applejinx 1y ago
Whatever percentage that can hire an engineer at all. This won't be 100%, but that'll be the companies who're able to hire somebody to parse the problems that arise. Without that engineer, they'll be doing what OP calls 'vibe coding', meaning they'll neither understand nor be able to fix when the whole thing blows up.
bigstrat2003 1y ago
It is most definitely 100%. Any competent programmer can write code better than the current AI tools.

What percentage of companies can hire an engineer who writes better code than o3?

DaSHacka 1y ago

100%

neural_thing 1y ago
highly doubt that
- biglyburrito 1y ago
  Then why ask the question, if you're so sure of the answer?

kbelder 1y ago

I'm a big booster of AI, but this doesn't even make sense. Any project using even the very best code generator in existence is going to need to be stewarded and tightly monitored by a competent programmer. AI is miraculous, but can't do crap reliably on it's own.

vunderba 1y ago

Given that o3 just spun its wheels endlessly trying to correct a CSS issue by suggesting to create a "tailwind.config.X" file despite being given the package JSON which contained a clear reference to Tailwind 4x - I'd say any engineer capable of reading and learning from basic documentation. For reference, Tailwind 4 will not read in config files by default (which is the older behavior) - the encouraged practice is to configure customizations directly in the CSS file where you import Tailwind itself.

pyfon 1y ago
Is breaking API changes how we defeat the killer robots?
herbst 1y ago
Tell the AI to comment above the include why it uses a specific version, ask it to document the version and it's specific quirks after fixing it with it. Not sure how o3 is generally at coding, but this kind of meta information works well for me to avoid version missmatches with Claude and Gemini It's kinda important that the AI finds the issues itself so it can properly document it in her own words.

only-one1701 1y ago

This question isn’t useful without context. But yes the answer is probably 100%.

Applejinx 1y ago

Whatever percentage that can hire an engineer at all. This won't be 100%, but that'll be the companies who're able to hire somebody to parse the problems that arise. Without that engineer, they'll be doing what OP calls 'vibe coding', meaning they'll neither understand nor be able to fix when the whole thing blows up.

bigstrat2003 1y ago

It is most definitely 100%. Any competent programmer can write code better than the current AI tools.