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> definitely subverting the parent/child relationship. That's the job of schools. Okay, it's not all about parents. We stopped allowing parents to do everythin

> definitely subverting the parent/child relationship. That's the job of schools. Okay, it's not all about parents. We stopped allowing parents to do everything because, as it turns out, most of them are fucking stupid. So we have public school, where real things are taught. And now, most people aren't illiterate. So, yay us! But this notion that everything should always bend over backwards to cater to what parents want... uh no. This is some 2000s bullshit. This is not the way it worked before. If parents don't want their kids learning about X, Y, Z then their options are either getting over it or pulling their kids out of school to home school. Bending the public school to whatever their dumbass whim is, isn't an option.

soulofmischief 2y ago
And now my state has this bad boy: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/6/28/what-is-louisianas-ten-commandments-law-and-why-is-it-controversial https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/6/28/what-is-louisianas-... "Louisiana is the first US state to require the Ten Commandments to be displayed in schools. The law stipulates the following: - Public schools are required to display a poster or framed copy of the Ten Commandments in every classroom, school library and cafeteria. - They must be displayed on a poster of minimum 11×14-inch (28×35.5cm) size and be written in an easily readable, large font." Separation of Church and State, my ass.
- selimthegrim 2y ago
  They're not going to understand unless they lived here long-term. My friends in St. Martinville told me stories about Jeff Landry's (adoptive) family growing up choosing a different pharmacist because the one they went to not being cool with Vatican II was still too liberal for them.
- toasterlovin 2y ago
  Hopefully you can see the irony of, on the one hand, arguing that the state should have the right to intervene in the parent/child relationship wrt what information a child has access to and, on the other hand, complaining that the state is requiring the display of the Ten Commandments in schools. The power you’re arguing for is the very same thing you’re complaining about.
  - soulofmischief 2y ago
    There is no irony here, you're not understanding the context. It's never been against the law for a teacher to show them here in school. But now they're forced to, even if they personally disagree with displaying and perpetuating religion in their public school classrooms, when separation of Church and State is such a core component of our Constitution. A huge amount of our state was against this violation of free speech, but our governor signed it into law anyway. The library is still a resource for those who wish to learn more about religion, and I certainly used it while learning about various religions that I was not allowed to research at home.
lazyeye 2y ago
Here's the problem with your rather simple-minded analysis. Teachers and education administrations can be really fucking stupid too. I trust the parents way more.
- const_cast 2y ago
  > Teachers and education administrations can be really fucking stupid too. Yeah, sure, they can be. The difference is that this is their JOB and they're EDUCATED. If you trust parents "way more" than actual educators, then great! Pull your kids out of school and teach them yourself. That's always been an option. But don't go around proclaiming public school should be specifically engineered to make YOU comfortable. You? Are nobody. Your opinion does not matter.
  - lazyeye 2y ago
    EDUCATED or indoctrinated? And you only have to look at the abysmal track record of the "Dept of Education" to see how badly things can be run. And yes I agree..my opinion is not that important, just like yours.

soulofmischief 2y ago

And now my state has this bad boy: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/6/28/what-is-louisianas-ten-commandments-law-and-why-is-it-controversial https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/6/28/what-is-louisianas-... "Louisiana is the first US state to require the Ten Commandments to be displayed in schools. The law stipulates the following: - Public schools are required to display a poster or framed copy of the Ten Commandments in every classroom, school library and cafeteria. - They must be displayed on a poster of minimum 11×14-inch (28×35.5cm) size and be written in an easily readable, large font." Separation of Church and State, my ass.

selimthegrim 2y ago
They're not going to understand unless they lived here long-term. My friends in St. Martinville told me stories about Jeff Landry's (adoptive) family growing up choosing a different pharmacist because the one they went to not being cool with Vatican II was still too liberal for them.
toasterlovin 2y ago
Hopefully you can see the irony of, on the one hand, arguing that the state should have the right to intervene in the parent/child relationship wrt what information a child has access to and, on the other hand, complaining that the state is requiring the display of the Ten Commandments in schools. The power you’re arguing for is the very same thing you’re complaining about.
- soulofmischief 2y ago
  There is no irony here, you're not understanding the context. It's never been against the law for a teacher to show them here in school. But now they're forced to, even if they personally disagree with displaying and perpetuating religion in their public school classrooms, when separation of Church and State is such a core component of our Constitution. A huge amount of our state was against this violation of free speech, but our governor signed it into law anyway. The library is still a resource for those who wish to learn more about religion, and I certainly used it while learning about various religions that I was not allowed to research at home.

lazyeye 2y ago

Here's the problem with your rather simple-minded analysis. Teachers and education administrations can be really fucking stupid too. I trust the parents way more.

const_cast 2y ago
> Teachers and education administrations can be really fucking stupid too. Yeah, sure, they can be. The difference is that this is their JOB and they're EDUCATED. If you trust parents "way more" than actual educators, then great! Pull your kids out of school and teach them yourself. That's always been an option. But don't go around proclaiming public school should be specifically engineered to make YOU comfortable. You? Are nobody. Your opinion does not matter.
- lazyeye 2y ago
  EDUCATED or indoctrinated? And you only have to look at the abysmal track record of the "Dept of Education" to see how badly things can be run. And yes I agree..my opinion is not that important, just like yours.