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Lol you've really triggered the pro Mein Kampf culture warriors

by ants_everywhere 2y ago

soulofmischief 2y ago
Ha, I'm so confused! Where the fuck did these guys come from?
- o11c 2y ago
  I'm pretty sure nobody commenting here actually wants Mein Kampf in particular. It's just a well-known example of a book that most people would agree to restrict. (The Anarchist Cookbook would probably be better if we need to pick a single work.) ... and since it's well known, its presence can get improperly used as a proxy for "this library is uncensored", when in fact the less-known books get restricted anyway.
  - soulofmischief 2y ago
    The Anarchist Cookbook is a great example. I had to acquire that from the internet. The people responding here mainly just come across as either ignorant or intentionally obtuse, thinking that if they can prove that in some cases the school administration overruled our teachers and librarians on the most egregious texts (as they constantly did), then the entire idea of "banned book week" is performative and not useful No one here seems to have actually made a real point, just looking for "gotchas".
    - greenavocado 2y ago
      I suspect that one is dangerous in large part because half the recipes will severely harm the implementor
  - ants_everywhere 2y ago
    Mein Kampf has been available at every school I've been at. It's not part of the curriculum but why would it be? Libraries usually have it because they have robust collections on authoritarianism for obvious reasons. The Anarchist Cookbook not so much. But neither are terrorist training manuals or other guides for making improvised weapons.
  - justin66 2y ago
    > It's just a well-known example of a book that most people would agree to restrict. That's just completely wrong. In America it's a book most libraries would keep around as a visible indicator that they're not censoring books, and a book the letter-writing busybodies who want to censor books would not prioritize because there's no sex in it.
  - MyOutfitIsVague 2y ago
    > It's just a well-known example of a book that most people would agree to restrict. I don't think most reasonable people would agree to restrict such an impactful piece of history. It's shocking to me that people think something they disagree with should be entirely censored.
- ants_everywhere 2y ago
  I don't know but they all have the same response. My guess is there are forums somewhere where people complain a lot about librarians not giving access to Nazi material and how it's a crime against free speech absolutism.
pclmulqdq 2y ago
Mein Kampf is just the most stark example of a book that is forbidden, but very significant to read if you want to understand WWII history. Uncle Tom's Cabin is another example of a book you wont see but is another piece of literature you should read if you want to understand the ideology of a given time period. You don't have to agree with a book to read it. Another commenter pointed out the anarchist's cookbook, which is another great book to read.
- cycomanic 2y ago
  > Another commenter pointed out the anarchist's cookbook, which is another great book to read. Again why is it a good example, it's not banned in any meaningful sense of the word. I can get onto Amazon and buy it right now. Calling it a good book to read is quite a stretch as well. It's a poorly written assembly of instructions for bomb and drug making (written by a 19 year old). Many of the instructions being outright dangerous, so much so that it has been suggested that the book was actually a plant by the CIA, FBI... (not that this is a very credible conspiracy theory). If you want to learn about bomb making better just pick up a chemistry textbook.
- dhosek 2y ago
  I’ve only read excerpts from it, and frankly, you don’t need to read it to understand WWII history. The important bits are well covered in any decent book on the subject and you won’t get any deeper insight by reading the source material.
  - pclmulqdq 2y ago
    Yeah, reading the whole thing is a bit excessive.
    - greenavocado 2y ago
      It's really not because the historical context is laid out in the early chapters.
  - greenavocado 2y ago

Lol you've really triggered the pro Mein Kampf culture warriors

soulofmischief 2y ago

Ha, I'm so confused! Where the fuck did these guys come from?

o11c 2y ago
I'm pretty sure nobody commenting here actually wants Mein Kampf in particular. It's just a well-known example of a book that most people would agree to restrict. (The Anarchist Cookbook would probably be better if we need to pick a single work.) ... and since it's well known, its presence can get improperly used as a proxy for "this library is uncensored", when in fact the less-known books get restricted anyway.
- soulofmischief 2y ago
  The Anarchist Cookbook is a great example. I had to acquire that from the internet. The people responding here mainly just come across as either ignorant or intentionally obtuse, thinking that if they can prove that in some cases the school administration overruled our teachers and librarians on the most egregious texts (as they constantly did), then the entire idea of "banned book week" is performative and not useful No one here seems to have actually made a real point, just looking for "gotchas".
  - greenavocado 2y ago
    I suspect that one is dangerous in large part because half the recipes will severely harm the implementor
- ants_everywhere 2y ago
  Mein Kampf has been available at every school I've been at. It's not part of the curriculum but why would it be? Libraries usually have it because they have robust collections on authoritarianism for obvious reasons. The Anarchist Cookbook not so much. But neither are terrorist training manuals or other guides for making improvised weapons.
- justin66 2y ago
  > It's just a well-known example of a book that most people would agree to restrict. That's just completely wrong. In America it's a book most libraries would keep around as a visible indicator that they're not censoring books, and a book the letter-writing busybodies who want to censor books would not prioritize because there's no sex in it.
- MyOutfitIsVague 2y ago
  > It's just a well-known example of a book that most people would agree to restrict. I don't think most reasonable people would agree to restrict such an impactful piece of history. It's shocking to me that people think something they disagree with should be entirely censored.
ants_everywhere 2y ago
I don't know but they all have the same response. My guess is there are forums somewhere where people complain a lot about librarians not giving access to Nazi material and how it's a crime against free speech absolutism.

pclmulqdq 2y ago

Mein Kampf is just the most stark example of a book that is forbidden, but very significant to read if you want to understand WWII history. Uncle Tom's Cabin is another example of a book you wont see but is another piece of literature you should read if you want to understand the ideology of a given time period. You don't have to agree with a book to read it. Another commenter pointed out the anarchist's cookbook, which is another great book to read.

cycomanic 2y ago
> Another commenter pointed out the anarchist's cookbook, which is another great book to read. Again why is it a good example, it's not banned in any meaningful sense of the word. I can get onto Amazon and buy it right now. Calling it a good book to read is quite a stretch as well. It's a poorly written assembly of instructions for bomb and drug making (written by a 19 year old). Many of the instructions being outright dangerous, so much so that it has been suggested that the book was actually a plant by the CIA, FBI... (not that this is a very credible conspiracy theory). If you want to learn about bomb making better just pick up a chemistry textbook.
dhosek 2y ago
I’ve only read excerpts from it, and frankly, you don’t need to read it to understand WWII history. The important bits are well covered in any decent book on the subject and you won’t get any deeper insight by reading the source material.
- pclmulqdq 2y ago
  Yeah, reading the whole thing is a bit excessive.
  - greenavocado 2y ago
    It's really not because the historical context is laid out in the early chapters.
- greenavocado 2y ago