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Considering this is all about Android adopting a very similar feature, it doesn’t sound like “Apple being Apple”…

by nativeit 1y ago

Mountain_Skies 1y ago
It's Apple being a trailblazer and leading the industry. Sometimes that lead is in a bad direction.
- subscribed 1y ago
  No, Apple adopted GrapheneOS feature 3 years after it was first introduced there.
- dagmx 1y ago
  The rest of the industry are adults and can be responsible for their own decisions though.
  - SXX 1y ago
    I'm 99% sure that Android version will be toggagle via Developer Options.
  - anonymars 1y ago
    Doesn't seem like it. I remember when Samsung ads mocked Apple for the camera notch and removing the headphone jack. For obvious reasons those ads are long gone...
    - dagmx 1y ago
      Sure, but my point is that blaming Apple for another brands decision to follow is just weird.
      - anonymars 1y ago
        Fair point. It's a frustrating pattern that seems to repeat, and I think partially it stems from when other brands are too thick to understand why people are choosing the competitor. Web browsers are an immediate example that comes to mind. When everyone started switching to Chrome, the other browsers fell all over themselves to strip down into minimalism, as though it was the sparse UI that was capturing users' hearts, as opposed to the rendering speed and compatibility. So then you had all these other fat, slow browsers that took away the only thing that was still distinguishing them from Chrome. In this case though, I guess it's about money. Why put in an SD card slot when you can instead extort your customers for a cloud storage subscription or a lucrative upsale to the higher model with more storage? Meanwhile as a customer nothing makes me more irate than "upgrading" to something that's worse because I can't replace the battery and the OS no longer gets updates.
        mananaysiempre 1y ago
        The minimalistic UI was kind of the original headline feature, I have to note—it’s literally in the name that the browser was to be little more but chrome around the stuff the user actually cares about, that being the web page. It’s just that the other things turned out to be more important.
- OneDeuxTriSeiGo 1y ago
  If I remember correctly, Apple actually picked up the feature after seeing it implemented in GrapheneOS. I think some people associated with Graphene were calling on Apple to add it for security reasons.

Considering this is all about Android adopting a very similar feature, it doesn’t sound like “Apple being Apple”…

Mountain_Skies 1y ago

It's Apple being a trailblazer and leading the industry. Sometimes that lead is in a bad direction.

subscribed 1y ago
No, Apple adopted GrapheneOS feature 3 years after it was first introduced there.
dagmx 1y ago
The rest of the industry are adults and can be responsible for their own decisions though.
- SXX 1y ago
  I'm 99% sure that Android version will be toggagle via Developer Options.
- anonymars 1y ago
  Doesn't seem like it. I remember when Samsung ads mocked Apple for the camera notch and removing the headphone jack. For obvious reasons those ads are long gone...
  - dagmx 1y ago
    Sure, but my point is that blaming Apple for another brands decision to follow is just weird.
    - anonymars 1y ago
      Fair point. It's a frustrating pattern that seems to repeat, and I think partially it stems from when other brands are too thick to understand why people are choosing the competitor. Web browsers are an immediate example that comes to mind. When everyone started switching to Chrome, the other browsers fell all over themselves to strip down into minimalism, as though it was the sparse UI that was capturing users' hearts, as opposed to the rendering speed and compatibility. So then you had all these other fat, slow browsers that took away the only thing that was still distinguishing them from Chrome. In this case though, I guess it's about money. Why put in an SD card slot when you can instead extort your customers for a cloud storage subscription or a lucrative upsale to the higher model with more storage? Meanwhile as a customer nothing makes me more irate than "upgrading" to something that's worse because I can't replace the battery and the OS no longer gets updates.
      - mananaysiempre 1y ago
        The minimalistic UI was kind of the original headline feature, I have to note—it’s literally in the name that the browser was to be little more but chrome around the stuff the user actually cares about, that being the web page. It’s just that the other things turned out to be more important.
OneDeuxTriSeiGo 1y ago
If I remember correctly, Apple actually picked up the feature after seeing it implemented in GrapheneOS. I think some people associated with Graphene were calling on Apple to add it for security reasons.