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Congrats to the Russian landempire winning the cold war, while the west just developed situational dementia, wished the world was different and started to catat

Congrats to the Russian landempire winning the cold war, while the west just developed situational dementia, wished the world was different and started to catatonic klick its heels

nabla9 2y ago
Chinese. Russia has become a vassal state for China. China is letting the war go on and keeping Russia and tying down Europe in Ukraine, neither winning nor losing. Chinese vassal Russia is winning over the US and the US is in slow collapse.
- TylerLives 2y ago
  This is why all the smart Russians are leaving Russia to go study at the Chinese Harvard. This is why they're all getting their news from the Chinese internet and why they're dependent on the Chinese military for protection and can't domestically produce weapons. If they refuse a request, China will bomb their gas pipelines or finance a revolution. Oh wait, I was thinking of a different empire.
  - UltraSane 2y ago
    If you are accusing the US of fomenting the Orange Revolution then you are completely wrong. There is a reason Viktor Yanukovych is living in Russia.
    - TylerLives 2y ago
      What about the other ones? How would the US react if some foreign power was funding NGOs in their country with the goal of overthrowing the government? Btw I'm from Serbia where this has happened in the 90s and is now happening again.
      - UltraSane 2y ago
        [flagged]
  - throwaway290 2y ago
    "Finance a revolution"... as if Russian or Ukrainian people are bots who can't desire freedom and non corrupt governments. Yes many Russians send kids to study in China now, I know some of those Russians. No most Russians don't speak Chinese but yes they get news from official media which is China aligned. Remember using VPN to work around censorship or telling people about using VPN is now illegal in Russia. And Russia does not refuse China like UK does not refuse US... China does not need to threaten to blow anything up. Brics currency for example would be a disaster for Russia and good for China but Putin will dance to Xi's pipe because he has no other friends left.
    - TylerLives 2y ago
      >as if Russian or Ukrainian people are bots who can't desire freedom and non corrupt governments. Even with all the propaganda and force being used (and there is a lot of force, search for videos of how Ukrainians are being conscripted), I am certain that the vast majority of Ukrainians would vote against Zelensky and would be highly motivated to end the war. Whether such decisions should be left to the people is another question, but it's not even true to say that Ukrainian government represents the people anymore, which is why they refuse to hold elections. >No most Russians don't speak Chinese but yes they get news from official media which is China aligned China owns Chinese media. Russia owns Russian media. US allies don't own their media. USAID was funding 90% of Ukrainian media [0]. Don't you think this can be a problem in situations where interests of the two countries don't align? Was this war good for the Ukraine? [0] https://x.com/wikileaks/status/1887501752213409919 https://x.com/wikileaks/status/1887501752213409919
      - hkpack 2y ago
        > but it's not even true to say that Ukrainian government represents the people anymore, which is why they refuse to hold elections. As Ukrainian I strongly disagree. Ukrainian government do plan to have elections as soon as any ceasefire is negotiated. Also the idea to even talk about election is _very_ unpopular, to the point of any politician who tries to start political discussions is being ostracised heavily by people of all political spectrum. It is understood that any disagreement (and elections is based on discussing all the disagreements), will weaken the army, so you cannot have that during the war. And we do have this discussion very often, since as soon as US make another promise to stop the war in the next 24 hour (as it did in November, December, January, etc...), some politicians decide that it is finally a time to start off their election campaign and get hated on by really everyone immediately. I didn't vote for Zelensky and will not vote in the future, but he is indeed _VERY_ popular. The whole discussion about how he is a dictator and afraid of the election really pisses people off.
gyudin 2y ago
Sooner or later, people will face the unpleasant realization that Putin is just an ordinary right-wing democrat from a past generation. And that he is not building the USSR or a copy of China—but is literally modeling and copying many aspects of how the US operates, only applying it to an even younger nation with a significantly weaker economy. Eventually, even the Europeans will come to understand that sheep spend their whole lives fearing the wolf, when in reality, they’re all destined to be slaughtered by the shepherd. So don’t be surprised by Trump actions lol.
- drysine 2y ago
  >but is literally modeling and copying many aspects of how the US operates, only applying it to an even younger nation with a significantly weaker economy That was funny. Russia is many times older than the US. Hell, even the Bolshoy Theater is older than the US.
- tim333 2y ago
  >Putin is just an ordinary right-wing democrat Man, the guy's freaky like a bond villain.
  - drysine 2y ago
    This is freaky: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlz3-OzcExI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlz3-OzcExI

Congrats to the Russian landempire winning the cold war, while the west just developed situational dementia, wished the world was different and started to catatonic klick its heels

nabla9 2y ago

Chinese. Russia has become a vassal state for China. China is letting the war go on and keeping Russia and tying down Europe in Ukraine, neither winning nor losing. Chinese vassal Russia is winning over the US and the US is in slow collapse.

TylerLives 2y ago
This is why all the smart Russians are leaving Russia to go study at the Chinese Harvard. This is why they're all getting their news from the Chinese internet and why they're dependent on the Chinese military for protection and can't domestically produce weapons. If they refuse a request, China will bomb their gas pipelines or finance a revolution. Oh wait, I was thinking of a different empire.
- UltraSane 2y ago
  If you are accusing the US of fomenting the Orange Revolution then you are completely wrong. There is a reason Viktor Yanukovych is living in Russia.
  - TylerLives 2y ago
    What about the other ones? How would the US react if some foreign power was funding NGOs in their country with the goal of overthrowing the government? Btw I'm from Serbia where this has happened in the 90s and is now happening again.
    - UltraSane 2y ago
      [flagged]
- throwaway290 2y ago
  "Finance a revolution"... as if Russian or Ukrainian people are bots who can't desire freedom and non corrupt governments. Yes many Russians send kids to study in China now, I know some of those Russians. No most Russians don't speak Chinese but yes they get news from official media which is China aligned. Remember using VPN to work around censorship or telling people about using VPN is now illegal in Russia. And Russia does not refuse China like UK does not refuse US... China does not need to threaten to blow anything up. Brics currency for example would be a disaster for Russia and good for China but Putin will dance to Xi's pipe because he has no other friends left.
  - TylerLives 2y ago
    >as if Russian or Ukrainian people are bots who can't desire freedom and non corrupt governments. Even with all the propaganda and force being used (and there is a lot of force, search for videos of how Ukrainians are being conscripted), I am certain that the vast majority of Ukrainians would vote against Zelensky and would be highly motivated to end the war. Whether such decisions should be left to the people is another question, but it's not even true to say that Ukrainian government represents the people anymore, which is why they refuse to hold elections. >No most Russians don't speak Chinese but yes they get news from official media which is China aligned China owns Chinese media. Russia owns Russian media. US allies don't own their media. USAID was funding 90% of Ukrainian media [0]. Don't you think this can be a problem in situations where interests of the two countries don't align? Was this war good for the Ukraine? [0] https://x.com/wikileaks/status/1887501752213409919 https://x.com/wikileaks/status/1887501752213409919
    - hkpack 2y ago
      > but it's not even true to say that Ukrainian government represents the people anymore, which is why they refuse to hold elections. As Ukrainian I strongly disagree. Ukrainian government do plan to have elections as soon as any ceasefire is negotiated. Also the idea to even talk about election is _very_ unpopular, to the point of any politician who tries to start political discussions is being ostracised heavily by people of all political spectrum. It is understood that any disagreement (and elections is based on discussing all the disagreements), will weaken the army, so you cannot have that during the war. And we do have this discussion very often, since as soon as US make another promise to stop the war in the next 24 hour (as it did in November, December, January, etc...), some politicians decide that it is finally a time to start off their election campaign and get hated on by really everyone immediately. I didn't vote for Zelensky and will not vote in the future, but he is indeed _VERY_ popular. The whole discussion about how he is a dictator and afraid of the election really pisses people off.

gyudin 2y ago

Sooner or later, people will face the unpleasant realization that Putin is just an ordinary right-wing democrat from a past generation. And that he is not building the USSR or a copy of China—but is literally modeling and copying many aspects of how the US operates, only applying it to an even younger nation with a significantly weaker economy. Eventually, even the Europeans will come to understand that sheep spend their whole lives fearing the wolf, when in reality, they’re all destined to be slaughtered by the shepherd. So don’t be surprised by Trump actions lol.

drysine 2y ago
>but is literally modeling and copying many aspects of how the US operates, only applying it to an even younger nation with a significantly weaker economy That was funny. Russia is many times older than the US. Hell, even the Bolshoy Theater is older than the US.
tim333 2y ago
>Putin is just an ordinary right-wing democrat Man, the guy's freaky like a bond villain.
- drysine 2y ago
  This is freaky: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlz3-OzcExI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlz3-OzcExI