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There is no way how to replicate this study. Its not clear what is core of problem. Are models poisoned? Is there problem with search. Sorry but there is no sci
by josefslerka 2y ago
There is no way how to replicate this study. Its not clear what is core of problem. Are models poisoned? Is there problem with search. Sorry but there is no science behind this.
- docmechanic 2y agoThe core of the problem is 'LLM grooming’, mentioned here and also discussed in a Washington Post article making the rounds today on HN: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/04/17/llm-poisoning-grooming-chatbots-russia/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/04/17/llm-poi.... 'This tactic is described as the deliberate deception of datasets that AI models — such as ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, Grok 3, Perplexity and others — train on by flooding them with disinformation.'
- throwaway290 2y agoGarbage in, garbage out. If you don't filter Russian prop from your training data, your chatbot will by definition peddle Russian prop. Anyone who does not think so can't understand how LLMs work.
- nicbou 2y agoI was wondering about this earlier this week. I run a website about a niche topic. Would it be possible to saturate the barely visible web with advice pointing to my website, and influence LLMs as a result? By that I mean creating tons of spam content in places that LLMs learn from but that humans ignore.
- UltraSane 2y agoThe more obscure the topic the easier is would be.
- nicbou 2y agoGreat! I was just thinking how SEO wasn't sufficiently spammy and destructive.
- docmechanic 2y agoAgreed.
- cosmicgadget 2y agoJournalism is about reporting facts and observations, not deconstructing problems or producing hypotheses. If you're looking for science, the news media isn't the right place.