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This is a rad read. I love everything ink and switch does, and Ivan's podcast "The Future of Coding." There is an important age-old piece of advice though: "ne

This is a rad read. I love everything ink and switch does, and Ivan's podcast "The Future of Coding." There is an important age-old piece of advice though: "never ask a man his salary, a woman her age, or Ivan when he's going to publicly release hest."

jagged-chisel 1y ago
Do they release any software? It’s frustrating when Brett Victor tells us how modeling our protagonist’s path during development is a boon for the developer … and refuses to release even a demo. I can read (and hear) about things Ink & Switch have explored, but can we experience that, too? I love the ideas these folks explore. I also want to explore - but I don’t have the time budget to learn and implement their concepts. I can’t speak for other software engineers, but I am much more likely to improve on such work if I can experience it first.
- Duanemclemore 1y ago
  They do! https://github.com/inkandswitch https://github.com/inkandswitch And Ivan's is here. https://github.com/ivanreese https://github.com/ivanreese But "public release of hest" was a joking reference to the fact that he's stated quite clearly that the project is just a testbed for him and will never be released. (No matter that every once in a while it makes the rounds of sites like this and everyone goes a-twitter...)
  - spiralganglion 1y ago
    https://ivanish.ca/never/ https://ivanish.ca/never/
    - Duanemclemore 1y ago
      An awesome song and awesome story, even it weren't the perfect response.
- spiralganglion 1y ago
  Automerge started as a research prototype and is now a widely-used substrate for building local-first apps: https://automerge.org/ https://automerge.org/ Our GitHub has a boatload of experiments: https://github.com/orgs/inkandswitch/repositories https://github.com/orgs/inkandswitch/repositories This is a fun afternoon just waiting for you: http://feelingisreality.com http://feelingisreality.com Muse started as a research project and turned into an app: https://museapp.com/ https://museapp.com/ Some of our essays have embedded versions of our prototypes you can play with: * Crosscut: https://www.inkandswitch.com/crosscut/ https://www.inkandswitch.com/crosscut/ * Potluck: https://www.inkandswitch.com/potluck/ https://www.inkandswitch.com/potluck/ Alex Warth is currently working on a remake of Ivan Sutherland's Sketchpad: https://github.com/alexwarth/sutherland https://github.com/alexwarth/sutherland There's probably a bunch more I'm forgetting.

jagged-chisel 1y ago

Do they release any software? It’s frustrating when Brett Victor tells us how modeling our protagonist’s path during development is a boon for the developer … and refuses to release even a demo. I can read (and hear) about things Ink & Switch have explored, but can we experience that, too? I love the ideas these folks explore. I also want to explore - but I don’t have the time budget to learn and implement their concepts. I can’t speak for other software engineers, but I am much more likely to improve on such work if I can experience it first.

Duanemclemore 1y ago
They do! https://github.com/inkandswitch https://github.com/inkandswitch And Ivan's is here. https://github.com/ivanreese https://github.com/ivanreese But "public release of hest" was a joking reference to the fact that he's stated quite clearly that the project is just a testbed for him and will never be released. (No matter that every once in a while it makes the rounds of sites like this and everyone goes a-twitter...)
- spiralganglion 1y ago
  https://ivanish.ca/never/ https://ivanish.ca/never/
  - Duanemclemore 1y ago
    An awesome song and awesome story, even it weren't the perfect response.
spiralganglion 1y ago
Automerge started as a research prototype and is now a widely-used substrate for building local-first apps: https://automerge.org/ https://automerge.org/ Our GitHub has a boatload of experiments: https://github.com/orgs/inkandswitch/repositories https://github.com/orgs/inkandswitch/repositories This is a fun afternoon just waiting for you: http://feelingisreality.com http://feelingisreality.com Muse started as a research project and turned into an app: https://museapp.com/ https://museapp.com/ Some of our essays have embedded versions of our prototypes you can play with: * Crosscut: https://www.inkandswitch.com/crosscut/ https://www.inkandswitch.com/crosscut/ * Potluck: https://www.inkandswitch.com/potluck/ https://www.inkandswitch.com/potluck/ Alex Warth is currently working on a remake of Ivan Sutherland's Sketchpad: https://github.com/alexwarth/sutherland https://github.com/alexwarth/sutherland There's probably a bunch more I'm forgetting.