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So, has anyone considering turning the tables and replacing the CEO with AI? Seems like a more reasonable path to me; more logic and less bullshit at the core,

by codr7 1y ago

So, has anyone considering turning the tables and replacing the CEO with AI? Seems like a more reasonable path to me; more logic and less bullshit at the core, keep human creativity. The director from the Travelers series, basically. Just consider the potential savings...

lofaszvanitt 1y ago
Now watch that never happen and be amazed :D.
bbqfog 1y ago
This is why every VC loves vibe coding. Now let's talk about replacing capital with AI!
- codr7 1y ago
  Yeah, but that's still missing the multiplied creativity we get from working in teams. Besides, we all know it's not going to work very well long term. Drop the CEO and keep the developers instead!
dyauspitr 1y ago
That’s just going to enable absolute idiots with enough money to “hire” an AI CEO. The rich will get richer faster.
- codr7 1y ago
  It was always a pyramid game, because when one person has everything it stops making sense. At least this way, we get good software out of it. Replacing developers has to be the worst idea ever.
__MatrixMan__ 1y ago
Is that substantively different than quitting and starting a much smaller company that competes with your previous one? Seems easier to just let the CEO and shareholders go down with the ship and move all the talent to the new one. You can just run the codebase through an LLM to cleanse it of any IP entanglements. Open source it under a pseudonym if you're worried about retribution. Whatever parts of the business that doesn't cover... well those are the people you need to hire from the old one. > First AI came for the artists and I said nothing because I was not an artist... -- VC's and CEO's while their ship sinks
loloquwowndueo 1y ago
Right on. I’d take an AI CEO trained by reading “the mythical man month”, “Peopleware”, “out of the crisis”, “drive” over some of the real CEOs I’ve worked under, any day of the week and Sundays too.
- codr7 1y ago
  Too much power in one individual, they start believing they know everything and are never wrong. But the role of steering a company is needed, that's why I think it's perfect for AI. Developers and VCs write the instructions together and AI runs the company.
  - owebmaster 1y ago
    What does "run the company" mean? LLMs can generate code, generating code directly replaces developers work. But how would it run a company? I think LLMs can help anyone be a good enough CEO but still need to be a real person. Now the question is: is a developer a better CEO than a CEO can code using LLM? I think we are going to see many 1-person companies going forward.
    - fragmede 1y ago
      How thorough a model do you have of what a CEO does, both high level and day to day? Aside from riding PJs around as executives do, what do they actually do? How much of that is LLM-able?
      - owebmaster 1y ago
        > How much of that is LLM-able? Wasn't that exactly my question?
        fragmede 1y ago
        My request was for a description from you of the things you see CEOs doing.
palmotea 1y ago
> So, has anyone considering turning the tables and replacing the CEO with AI? Better yet: consider replacing the shareholders with AI. But no, no one considers that, because those are the people who have the power. And "replacing with AI" is all about power.
apercu 1y ago
Depends on the CEO. Let’s take a mythical example of a person who is the CEO of 5 companies, who posts on social media all day every day and ruins value of the companies they “run” and panders to angry little men with daddy issues just like themselves? That mythical CEO is probably easily replaced by just about anyone, including AI.

by codr7 1y ago

lofaszvanitt 1y ago

Now watch that never happen and be amazed :D.

bbqfog 1y ago

This is why every VC loves vibe coding. Now let's talk about replacing capital with AI!

codr7 1y ago
Yeah, but that's still missing the multiplied creativity we get from working in teams. Besides, we all know it's not going to work very well long term. Drop the CEO and keep the developers instead!

dyauspitr 1y ago

That’s just going to enable absolute idiots with enough money to “hire” an AI CEO. The rich will get richer faster.

codr7 1y ago
It was always a pyramid game, because when one person has everything it stops making sense. At least this way, we get good software out of it. Replacing developers has to be the worst idea ever.

__MatrixMan__ 1y ago

Is that substantively different than quitting and starting a much smaller company that competes with your previous one? Seems easier to just let the CEO and shareholders go down with the ship and move all the talent to the new one. You can just run the codebase through an LLM to cleanse it of any IP entanglements. Open source it under a pseudonym if you're worried about retribution. Whatever parts of the business that doesn't cover... well those are the people you need to hire from the old one. > First AI came for the artists and I said nothing because I was not an artist... -- VC's and CEO's while their ship sinks

loloquwowndueo 1y ago

Right on. I’d take an AI CEO trained by reading “the mythical man month”, “Peopleware”, “out of the crisis”, “drive” over some of the real CEOs I’ve worked under, any day of the week and Sundays too.

codr7 1y ago
Too much power in one individual, they start believing they know everything and are never wrong. But the role of steering a company is needed, that's why I think it's perfect for AI. Developers and VCs write the instructions together and AI runs the company.
- owebmaster 1y ago
  What does "run the company" mean? LLMs can generate code, generating code directly replaces developers work. But how would it run a company? I think LLMs can help anyone be a good enough CEO but still need to be a real person. Now the question is: is a developer a better CEO than a CEO can code using LLM? I think we are going to see many 1-person companies going forward.
  - fragmede 1y ago
    How thorough a model do you have of what a CEO does, both high level and day to day? Aside from riding PJs around as executives do, what do they actually do? How much of that is LLM-able?
    - owebmaster 1y ago
      > How much of that is LLM-able? Wasn't that exactly my question?
      - fragmede 1y ago
        My request was for a description from you of the things you see CEOs doing.

palmotea 1y ago

> So, has anyone considering turning the tables and replacing the CEO with AI? Better yet: consider replacing the shareholders with AI. But no, no one considers that, because those are the people who have the power. And "replacing with AI" is all about power.

apercu 1y ago

Depends on the CEO. Let’s take a mythical example of a person who is the CEO of 5 companies, who posts on social media all day every day and ruins value of the companies they “run” and panders to angry little men with daddy issues just like themselves? That mythical CEO is probably easily replaced by just about anyone, including AI.