> I know secularists and people of other religions who celebrate xmas "just because" At this point I consider "Christmas" a global secular holiday. I put the

> I know secularists and people of other religions who celebrate xmas "just because" At this point I consider "Christmas" a global secular holiday. I put the people who whine about the religious aspect of Christmas into two boxes: Either they're playing power / politics games, or they're like the people who think that Betamax / CCS / ect were better.