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Within the last half decade it appears like IBM overtly markets to whatever administration and party is in power, a few years ago they were marketing creepy vac

Within the last half decade it appears like IBM overtly markets to whatever administration and party is in power, a few years ago they were marketing creepy vaccine passports [1]. [1] https://www.ibm.com/think/topics/vaccine-passport https://www.ibm.com/think/topics/vaccine-passport

CharlesW 1y ago
Has IBM ever let moral or ethical standards get in the way of profit? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust "…Black outlined the key role of IBM's technology in the Holocaust genocide committed by the German Nazi regime, by facilitating the regime's generation and tabulation of punch cards for national census data, military logistics, ghetto statistics, train traffic management, and concentration camp capacity."
- HeyLaughingBoy 1y ago
  If you have to go back 80 years to find something to complain about, I'd say it's not worth complaining about.
  - CharlesW 1y ago
    "That One Time It Powered a Genocide" is just an older example of how IBM is happy to put profit over principles. They have a long history that includes happily selling to authoritarian regimes¹, knowingly selling technology that doesn't work², commercializing biometric data without consent³, age discrimination, and more. ¹ http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/~cale/cs201/apartheid.comp.html http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/~cale/cs201/apartheid.co... ² https://www.healthcaredive.com/news/stat-ibms-watson-gave-unsafe-and-incorrect-cancer-treatment-advice/528666/ https://www.healthcaredive.com/news/stat-ibms-watson-gave-un... ³ https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/ibm-stirs-controversy-by-sharing-photos-for-ai-facial-recognition/ https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/ibm-stirs-controversy-by...
    - HeyLaughingBoy 1y ago
      Thank you. I don't have a dog in this fight and if there are recent examples of this kind of crap going on, by all means publicize them. My issue is with people who drag up shit from 100 years ago and they go "see how bad they are?" Go back far enough and everyone's had a skeleton in their closet.
      - harimau777 1y ago
        For most people, that skeleton isn't aiding the holocaust though.
energy123 1y ago
Behavior won't change until incentives that cause the behavior change.

CharlesW 1y ago

Has IBM ever let moral or ethical standards get in the way of profit? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust "…Black outlined the key role of IBM's technology in the Holocaust genocide committed by the German Nazi regime, by facilitating the regime's generation and tabulation of punch cards for national census data, military logistics, ghetto statistics, train traffic management, and concentration camp capacity."

HeyLaughingBoy 1y ago
If you have to go back 80 years to find something to complain about, I'd say it's not worth complaining about.
- CharlesW 1y ago
  "That One Time It Powered a Genocide" is just an older example of how IBM is happy to put profit over principles. They have a long history that includes happily selling to authoritarian regimes¹, knowingly selling technology that doesn't work², commercializing biometric data without consent³, age discrimination, and more. ¹ http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/~cale/cs201/apartheid.comp.html http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/~cale/cs201/apartheid.co... ² https://www.healthcaredive.com/news/stat-ibms-watson-gave-unsafe-and-incorrect-cancer-treatment-advice/528666/ https://www.healthcaredive.com/news/stat-ibms-watson-gave-un... ³ https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/ibm-stirs-controversy-by-sharing-photos-for-ai-facial-recognition/ https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/ibm-stirs-controversy-by...
  - HeyLaughingBoy 1y ago
    Thank you. I don't have a dog in this fight and if there are recent examples of this kind of crap going on, by all means publicize them. My issue is with people who drag up shit from 100 years ago and they go "see how bad they are?" Go back far enough and everyone's had a skeleton in their closet.
    - harimau777 1y ago
      For most people, that skeleton isn't aiding the holocaust though.

energy123 1y ago

Behavior won't change until incentives that cause the behavior change.