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I'm weary of these statistics as one can manipulate data to suit one's purpose. Source please?
by vecinu 14y ago
I'm weary of these statistics as one can manipulate data to suit one's purpose. Source please?
- dmlorenzetti 14y agoI would have liked to provide the source, but it was a New Yorker article that I read in the print edition. Here's an "abstract" of the article, which hints at my synopsis: http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2005/10/24/051024fa_fact_specter http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2005/10/24/051024fa_fact_sp...
- sp332 14y agoI think you mean wary? Here you can see that as infant mortality increases, population growth is nearly steady or even increases slightly. http://www.gapminder.org/world/#$majorMode=chart$is;shi=t;ly=2003;lb=f;il=t;fs=11;al=30;stl=t;st=t;nsl=t;se=t$wst;tts=C$ts;sp=5.59290322580644;ti=2008$zpv;v=0$inc_x;mmid=XCOORDS;iid=0AkBd6lyS3EmpdFY5Z0QzTzRRbzJ1VXdqdGVyNE0tcFE;by=ind$inc_y;mmid=YCOORDS;iid=phAwcNAVuyj0NpF2PTov2Cw;by=ind$inc_s;uniValue=1.95;iid=phAwcNAVuyj0TAlJeCEzcGQ;by=ind$inc_c;uniValue=255;gid=CATID0;by=grp$map_x;scale=lin;dataMin=-10.9551;dataMax=20$map_y;scale=log;dataMin=1.2;dataMax=420$map_s;sma=49;smi=1.95$cd;bd=0$inds= http://www.gapminder.org/world/#$majorMode=chart$is;shi=t;ly... (Note the log scale on the vertical axis.) You can "scrub" backward and forward in time with the slider at the bottom.
- dave_sullivan 14y agohttp://www.ted.com/talks/hans_rosling_the_good_news_of_the_decade.html http://www.ted.com/talks/hans_rosling_the_good_news_of_the_d... That video does a very good job of explaining this. As child mortality decreases, family size goes down. I'm sure the data is manipulated to suit someone's purposes, but all seems reasonable to me...
- noselasd 14y agoI'd recommend watching all the TED talks by Hans Rosling, they are pretty awesome and eye opening, in particular these: http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/hans_rosling_shows_the_best_stats_you_ve_ever_seen.html http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/hans_rosling_shows_the_best... http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/hans_rosling_reveals_new_insights_on_poverty.html http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/hans_rosling_reveals_new_in... http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/hans_rosling_at_state.html http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/hans_rosling_at_state.html
- ColinDabritz 14y agoPlay with the raw data as you like at Gapminder.org. For example, here is a graph I created of infant mortality vs children per woman: http://www.bit.ly/QTPNBk http://www.bit.ly/QTPNBk (starts at 1900, press play to see changes to current) Note that each axis has a small 'various sources' button under it that will cite specific sources. You may also enjoy Hans Rosling's TED Talk on global population growth, as he gets into the details pretty thoroughly. https://www.ted.com/talks/hans_rosling_on_global_population_growth.html https://www.ted.com/talks/hans_rosling_on_global_population_...
- Spooky23 14y agoDo some Googling. My grandparents were all born in Ireland from 1905-1920. My father's father was one of 6 children, my mother's mother 1 of 13. All families lost at least two children each that I'm aware of -- stillbirths were often kept secret. The point is, when you have incredibly poor country, excessive influence of religion, poor health and a high child mortality rate, you have more children, both planned and unplanned.
- genwin 14y agoI suspect that excessive influence of religion led to all those other problems.
- tomjakubowski 14y agoExcessive influence of religion leads to poverty, poor health, and a high child mortality rate? Do you have any sources to back this besides a general feeling that religion is "bad"?
- d0mine 14y agoTED Talk Hans Rosling: Let my dataset change your mindset: Religion has very little to do with the number of babies per woman. All the religions in the world are fully [able] to maintain their values and adapt to this new world. </quote> http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/hans_rosling_at_state.html http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/hans_rosling_at_state.html