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Protein plays a major role in satiety. They're even claiming that "excess" protein causes heart disease. What a load of nonsense, not a surprise from "nutrition

Protein plays a major role in satiety. They're even claiming that "excess" protein causes heart disease. What a load of nonsense, not a surprise from "nutrition experts".

imzadi 1y ago
If you are looking for satiety, fat is best. A whole egg will satisfy you longer than the same amount of chicken because the egg has fat.
- firesteelrain 1y ago
  Disagree , protein and fiber is best for satiety. You have to limit fat including saturated versions of it to stay healthy and control cholesterol
- willcipriano 1y ago
  Same amount (weight? volume?) or same calories? A low fat salad will fill you up longer than either of those options due to the larger volume in my experience.
  - imzadi 1y ago
    It will fill your stomach but it won't stick with you the way it would if you had some fat.
  - seec 1y ago
    That's complete nonsense if you are TRULY hungry. If a salad fills you up, you have psychological hunger, not a real energy need. I have been in a situation where I accepted very light super (even though I run every day), in particular salads and invariably I have been awoken at night hungry as hell. Real hunger is satisfied with calories (and your ability to process them) not the volume they have.
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- Fire-Dragon-DoL 1y ago
  I can eat unlimited eggs and never feel full (hyperbole, but getting my point). 150g of fat plus a salad with lettuce, tomato and cottage cheese makes me full, which is something hard to achieve for me
astura 1y ago
I think satiety is way more cultural and personal than some sort of objective measure. I recall an interview with a guy who ran an American fast food franchise somewhere in Asia. He was talking about how they have to modify the menu for the locale and he was saying how they absolutely have to serve rice because people will say "a burger just won't fill me up without rice." In America we say the opposite. I read on Reddit and HN that all sorts of things I personally find very filling are objectively unfilling and "you'll be hungry 10 minutes later." The hive mind just doesn't match my experience.
- andrewflnr 1y ago
  That's fascinating. But the rice is a pretty clear analogue to fries. Did they have those, too?
safety1st 1y ago
Yeah that part really rubbed me the wrong way. The study cited is not evidence that if you eat a lot of protein you'll get heart disease. Any decent nutritionist will tell you that idea is horse shit. I think the article is misguided in general. Look, chicken breast is boring. Unless you plan on banning hyperpalatable foods altogether (good luck with that, Food Stalin), they are always going to be around. Protein keeps you full for longer than carbs, and is less calorie dense than fat. Sounds like exactly what Americans need. If these hyperpalatable foods shift toward a more protein heavy composition, it's probably going to be good for public health. We don't need the "all natural" cult screwing this up.

Protein plays a major role in satiety. They're even claiming that "excess" protein causes heart disease. What a load of nonsense, not a surprise from "nutrition experts".

imzadi 1y ago

If you are looking for satiety, fat is best. A whole egg will satisfy you longer than the same amount of chicken because the egg has fat.

firesteelrain 1y ago
Disagree , protein and fiber is best for satiety. You have to limit fat including saturated versions of it to stay healthy and control cholesterol
willcipriano 1y ago
Same amount (weight? volume?) or same calories? A low fat salad will fill you up longer than either of those options due to the larger volume in my experience.
- imzadi 1y ago
  It will fill your stomach but it won't stick with you the way it would if you had some fat.
- seec 1y ago
  That's complete nonsense if you are TRULY hungry. If a salad fills you up, you have psychological hunger, not a real energy need. I have been in a situation where I accepted very light super (even though I run every day), in particular salads and invariably I have been awoken at night hungry as hell. Real hunger is satisfied with calories (and your ability to process them) not the volume they have.
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Fire-Dragon-DoL 1y ago
I can eat unlimited eggs and never feel full (hyperbole, but getting my point). 150g of fat plus a salad with lettuce, tomato and cottage cheese makes me full, which is something hard to achieve for me

astura 1y ago

I think satiety is way more cultural and personal than some sort of objective measure. I recall an interview with a guy who ran an American fast food franchise somewhere in Asia. He was talking about how they have to modify the menu for the locale and he was saying how they absolutely have to serve rice because people will say "a burger just won't fill me up without rice." In America we say the opposite. I read on Reddit and HN that all sorts of things I personally find very filling are objectively unfilling and "you'll be hungry 10 minutes later." The hive mind just doesn't match my experience.

andrewflnr 1y ago
That's fascinating. But the rice is a pretty clear analogue to fries. Did they have those, too?

safety1st 1y ago

Yeah that part really rubbed me the wrong way. The study cited is not evidence that if you eat a lot of protein you'll get heart disease. Any decent nutritionist will tell you that idea is horse shit. I think the article is misguided in general. Look, chicken breast is boring. Unless you plan on banning hyperpalatable foods altogether (good luck with that, Food Stalin), they are always going to be around. Protein keeps you full for longer than carbs, and is less calorie dense than fat. Sounds like exactly what Americans need. If these hyperpalatable foods shift toward a more protein heavy composition, it's probably going to be good for public health. We don't need the "all natural" cult screwing this up.