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Deafening silence about what the executive order actually says or any facts about the case.

smallmancontrov 2y ago
No, the article sums it up correctly. He refused to go along with the "stolen election" narrative Trump was trying to build (and a few others) and is now being punished for it. > Krebs, through CISA, falsely and baselessly denied that the 2020 election was rigged and stolen, including by inappropriately and categorically dismissing widespread election malfeasance and serious vulnerabilities with voting machines https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/04/addressing-risks-from-chris-krebs-and-government-censorship/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/04/addr...
- ripe 2y ago
  Thank you for posting the link. Should have been part of the article. WTF? Black is white, and white is black.
  - meltyness 2y ago
    https://web.archive.org/web/20250130231413/https://www.cisa.gov/topics/election-security/rumor-vs-reality https://web.archive.org/web/20250130231413/https://www.cisa.... Here's an article supposedly of Krebs provenance, which implicitly lumps Trump himself in as a "malicious actor". > can lead to uncertainty in the minds of voters; uncertainty that can be exploited by malicious actors Maybe not something I would want said or repeated by my administration either, disregarding the veracity. There's no date or byline either, so according to the authoritative FAQ, if this were to stand, it would be an admission of acting in bad faith. Given federal government communications sprawl, it's quite a needle, pretty good performance in my opinion to root this out, disregarding sowing doubt about a federated election and who's will specifically it should / will service. Voter inclusion (who should / may vote) is itself at issue, but even in the assessment here given DOGE findings unveils possible oversights, FWAB in the FAQ is cited to depend in part on SSNs and in light of the DOGE findings regarding 150+ year olds collecting social security, the security assessment itself does not describe a system that is definitively air-tight, or even terribly reassuring, if there's doubt in your mind about who voted, and how.
    - amenhotep 2y ago
      A downvote seems insufficient but I'm really lost for words at how to even reply to this. The tone of reasonableness while posting absolute bonkers insanity is alarming.
      - foogazi 2y ago
        Sartre’s quote in anti-semites applies to many of these: > Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.
    - richbell 2y ago
      > in light of the DOGE findings regarding 150+ year olds collecting social security... The claims made by DOGE were highly misleading (i.e., lack of death date does not mean a 150 year old is receiving money). Moreover, it wasn't a novel discovery. It had already been identified and published in a 2023 audit: https://oig.ssa.gov/assets/uploads/a-06-21-51022.pdf https://oig.ssa.gov/assets/uploads/a-06-21-51022.pdf
    - snozolli 2y ago
      implicitly lumps Trump himself in as a "malicious actor". Trump is a malicious actor. He literally tried to overthrow democracy on January 6! Maybe not something I would want said or repeated by my administration either, disregarding the veracity. Congratulations on empathizing with an authoritarian. in light of the DOGE findings regarding 150+ year olds collecting social security Stop being so gullible. https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-doge-social-security-150-year-old-benefits/ https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-doge-social-security-1... Musk could also have simply looked up the SSA’s own website, which explains that since September 2015 the agency has automatically stopped benefit payments when anyone reaches the age of 115.
  - exe34 2y ago
    Truth is what big brother says it is.
    - cookiengineer 2y ago
      Also known as the Ministry of Truth, ironically and sarcastically.
projektfu 2y ago
1. "It isn't really true, never really happened" <-- you are here 2. "It happened but it's not as serious as you make it out to be." 3. "It may be serious but it is legal and within the president's right." 4. "It may not be legal but when the president does it it is effectively legal because he has to be able to be president without being undermined." 5. "Fascism? What about cancel culture?!"

No, the article sums it up correctly. He refused to go along with the "stolen election" narrative Trump was trying to build (and a few others) and is now being punished for it. > Krebs, through CISA, falsely and baselessly denied that the 2020 election was rigged and stolen, including by inappropriately and categorically dismissing widespread election malfeasance and serious vulnerabilities with voting machines https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/04/addressing-risks-from-chris-krebs-and-government-censorship/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/04/addr...

ripe 2y ago
Thank you for posting the link. Should have been part of the article. WTF? Black is white, and white is black.
- meltyness 2y ago
  https://web.archive.org/web/20250130231413/https://www.cisa.gov/topics/election-security/rumor-vs-reality https://web.archive.org/web/20250130231413/https://www.cisa.... Here's an article supposedly of Krebs provenance, which implicitly lumps Trump himself in as a "malicious actor". > can lead to uncertainty in the minds of voters; uncertainty that can be exploited by malicious actors Maybe not something I would want said or repeated by my administration either, disregarding the veracity. There's no date or byline either, so according to the authoritative FAQ, if this were to stand, it would be an admission of acting in bad faith. Given federal government communications sprawl, it's quite a needle, pretty good performance in my opinion to root this out, disregarding sowing doubt about a federated election and who's will specifically it should / will service. Voter inclusion (who should / may vote) is itself at issue, but even in the assessment here given DOGE findings unveils possible oversights, FWAB in the FAQ is cited to depend in part on SSNs and in light of the DOGE findings regarding 150+ year olds collecting social security, the security assessment itself does not describe a system that is definitively air-tight, or even terribly reassuring, if there's doubt in your mind about who voted, and how.
  - amenhotep 2y ago
    A downvote seems insufficient but I'm really lost for words at how to even reply to this. The tone of reasonableness while posting absolute bonkers insanity is alarming.
    - foogazi 2y ago
      Sartre’s quote in anti-semites applies to many of these: > Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.
  - richbell 2y ago
    > in light of the DOGE findings regarding 150+ year olds collecting social security... The claims made by DOGE were highly misleading (i.e., lack of death date does not mean a 150 year old is receiving money). Moreover, it wasn't a novel discovery. It had already been identified and published in a 2023 audit: https://oig.ssa.gov/assets/uploads/a-06-21-51022.pdf https://oig.ssa.gov/assets/uploads/a-06-21-51022.pdf
  - snozolli 2y ago
    implicitly lumps Trump himself in as a "malicious actor". Trump is a malicious actor. He literally tried to overthrow democracy on January 6! Maybe not something I would want said or repeated by my administration either, disregarding the veracity. Congratulations on empathizing with an authoritarian. in light of the DOGE findings regarding 150+ year olds collecting social security Stop being so gullible. https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-doge-social-security-150-year-old-benefits/ https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-doge-social-security-1... Musk could also have simply looked up the SSA’s own website, which explains that since September 2015 the agency has automatically stopped benefit payments when anyone reaches the age of 115.
- exe34 2y ago
  Truth is what big brother says it is.
  - cookiengineer 2y ago
    Also known as the Ministry of Truth, ironically and sarcastically.

projektfu 2y ago

1. "It isn't really true, never really happened" <-- you are here 2. "It happened but it's not as serious as you make it out to be." 3. "It may be serious but it is legal and within the president's right." 4. "It may not be legal but when the president does it it is effectively legal because he has to be able to be president without being undermined." 5. "Fascism? What about cancel culture?!"