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Well, the renters will reward any government that pushes down house prices i.e. builds more houses. And I assume there are more renters than home owners.

floydnoel 1y ago
but which group is more active in voting and politics?
- tarkin2 1y ago
  I would assume home owners are more likely to vote. But even with a lower voter turn out, there could still be more voting renters. A sibling post has stats from 15 years ago but a lot has changed since then. My gut feeling is that more people are struggling to buy than to pay back mortgages but I have no stats to back that up.
  - Jensson 1y ago
    > But even with a lower voter turn out, there could still be more voting renters. Almost every country has more home owners than renters, so no. In USA its 65%.
- switch007 1y ago
  Which group lives in cities where their vote counts far less than a vote in the countryside
qalmakka 1y ago
It depends on the country or area unfortunately
carlosjobim 1y ago
Renters do not want justice or fairness. They want to one day become landlords and themselves suck the blood of the young and healthy. "A slave dreams not of freedom, but of his own slaves."
- morellt 1y ago
  ^^^ this I don't think people consider the fact that a very good portion of these landowners were once renters that worked their way up and don't want to make it easier for the ones who have to do the same after themselves. It's easy to point fingers from the bottom until suddenly you're looking down from the top and the view ain't that bad
  - robocat 1y ago
    > It's easy to point fingers from the bottom until suddenly you're looking down from the top and the view ain't that bad I wish we had specific words for this type of hypocrisy. Seeing people in wealthy USA complain about people relatively wealthier than them, rather than looking at their own wealth versus the poor in other countries. Obviously the poor in the USA aren't living the life of Reilly, but they're far beyond the wealth of the poor in India. How wealthy were the 99% Occupy Wall Street protesters? You can't make people see what they don't want to.
petesergeant 1y ago
> The 2011 Census tells us … around 64% of UK households owned their home That’s not the same as the number of voters, obviously, but I’m not sure it’s a safe assumption, even before it gets into the actual voting dynamics from FPTP… there’s also presumably a lot of renters with their eyes on Mom and Dad’s home as an inheritance.
- tarkin2 1y ago
  If they inherit the house they would be out of the mortgage casino and lower housing prices won't affect them so much. Of course it won't be as valuable as an asset, but assuming they are primarily using it as a house rather then an asset then lower housing prices may not significantly affect their voting behaviour.
  - petesergeant 1y ago
    > but assuming they are primarily using it as a house Unlikely unless they’re an only child

floydnoel 1y ago

but which group is more active in voting and politics?

tarkin2 1y ago
I would assume home owners are more likely to vote. But even with a lower voter turn out, there could still be more voting renters. A sibling post has stats from 15 years ago but a lot has changed since then. My gut feeling is that more people are struggling to buy than to pay back mortgages but I have no stats to back that up.
- Jensson 1y ago
  > But even with a lower voter turn out, there could still be more voting renters. Almost every country has more home owners than renters, so no. In USA its 65%.
switch007 1y ago
Which group lives in cities where their vote counts far less than a vote in the countryside

qalmakka 1y ago

It depends on the country or area unfortunately

carlosjobim 1y ago

Renters do not want justice or fairness. They want to one day become landlords and themselves suck the blood of the young and healthy. "A slave dreams not of freedom, but of his own slaves."

morellt 1y ago
^^^ this I don't think people consider the fact that a very good portion of these landowners were once renters that worked their way up and don't want to make it easier for the ones who have to do the same after themselves. It's easy to point fingers from the bottom until suddenly you're looking down from the top and the view ain't that bad
- robocat 1y ago
  > It's easy to point fingers from the bottom until suddenly you're looking down from the top and the view ain't that bad I wish we had specific words for this type of hypocrisy. Seeing people in wealthy USA complain about people relatively wealthier than them, rather than looking at their own wealth versus the poor in other countries. Obviously the poor in the USA aren't living the life of Reilly, but they're far beyond the wealth of the poor in India. How wealthy were the 99% Occupy Wall Street protesters? You can't make people see what they don't want to.

petesergeant 1y ago

> The 2011 Census tells us … around 64% of UK households owned their home That’s not the same as the number of voters, obviously, but I’m not sure it’s a safe assumption, even before it gets into the actual voting dynamics from FPTP… there’s also presumably a lot of renters with their eyes on Mom and Dad’s home as an inheritance.

tarkin2 1y ago
If they inherit the house they would be out of the mortgage casino and lower housing prices won't affect them so much. Of course it won't be as valuable as an asset, but assuming they are primarily using it as a house rather then an asset then lower housing prices may not significantly affect their voting behaviour.
- petesergeant 1y ago
  > but assuming they are primarily using it as a house Unlikely unless they’re an only child