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I uploaded this image that I screenshotted off Google street view (no metadata) and it got with 200m. https://chatgpt.com/share/6801bbf7-fd40-8008-985d-75c8813

I uploaded this image that I screenshotted off Google street view (no metadata) and it got with 200m. https://chatgpt.com/share/6801bbf7-fd40-8008-985d-75c8813f55c4 https://chatgpt.com/share/6801bbf7-fd40-8008-985d-75c8813f55... There is the chat. Weirdly it said, "I’ve seen that exact house before on Google Street View when exploring Cairns neighborhoods."

bluesnews 1y ago
It might train off of street view
marxisttemp 1y ago
This is the most impressive ChatGPT chat I’ve seen yet. While I theoretically can accept how large-scale probabilistic text generation can lead to this chain of “reasoning”, it really feels like actual intelligence.
- HaZeust 1y ago
  It's been intelligence for a long time; the goalposts just shift, and people can't abstract the idea to an LLM. But language processing and large data processing itself IS a form of intelligence.
- PhilipRoman 1y ago
  Maybe you're right, but I think it's more likely that it had been trained on street view photos and then invented a plausible justification for the guess afterwards (which is something I often see ChatGPT do, when it easily arrives at the correct answer, but gives bullshit explanations for it).
thomasfromcdnjs 1y ago
This was the image: https://imgur.com/a/cCUvgDG https://imgur.com/a/cCUvgDG
geysersam 1y ago
> Weirdly it said, "I’ve seen that exact house before on Google Street View when exploring Cairns neighborhoods." That's slightly creepy!
- oezi 1y ago
  The anthropomorphisation certainly is weird. But the technical aspect seems even weirder. Did OpenAI really build dedicated tools to have their models train on Google Street View? Or do they have generic technology for browsing complex sites like Street view?
  - comex 1y ago
    It’s just a hallucination, same idea as o3 claiming that it uses its laptop to mine Bitcoin: https://transluce.org/investigating-o3-truthfulness https://transluce.org/investigating-o3-truthfulness I doubt the model was trained on Street View, but even if it was, LLMs don’t retain any “memory” of how/when they were trained, so any element of truthfulness would be coincidental.
    - geysersam 1y ago
      If it's trained on street view data it's not unlikely that the model can associate a particular piece of context to street view. For example, a picture can have telltale signs that street view content has, such as blurred faces and street signs, watermarks, etc. Even if it's not directly trained on street view data it has probably encountered street view content in it's training dataset.
      - oezi 1y ago
        I think the test which the OP performed (to pick a random street view and let it pinpoint it) would indicate that it has ingested some kind of information in this regard in a structured manner.
      - namaria 1y ago
        The training process doesn't preserve information needed for the LLM to infer that. It cannot be anything other than nonsense that sounds plausible, which is what they do best.

bluesnews 1y ago

It might train off of street view

marxisttemp 1y ago

This is the most impressive ChatGPT chat I’ve seen yet. While I theoretically can accept how large-scale probabilistic text generation can lead to this chain of “reasoning”, it really feels like actual intelligence.

HaZeust 1y ago
It's been intelligence for a long time; the goalposts just shift, and people can't abstract the idea to an LLM. But language processing and large data processing itself IS a form of intelligence.
PhilipRoman 1y ago
Maybe you're right, but I think it's more likely that it had been trained on street view photos and then invented a plausible justification for the guess afterwards (which is something I often see ChatGPT do, when it easily arrives at the correct answer, but gives bullshit explanations for it).

thomasfromcdnjs 1y ago

This was the image: https://imgur.com/a/cCUvgDG https://imgur.com/a/cCUvgDG

geysersam 1y ago

> Weirdly it said, "I’ve seen that exact house before on Google Street View when exploring Cairns neighborhoods." That's slightly creepy!

oezi 1y ago
The anthropomorphisation certainly is weird. But the technical aspect seems even weirder. Did OpenAI really build dedicated tools to have their models train on Google Street View? Or do they have generic technology for browsing complex sites like Street view?
- comex 1y ago
  It’s just a hallucination, same idea as o3 claiming that it uses its laptop to mine Bitcoin: https://transluce.org/investigating-o3-truthfulness https://transluce.org/investigating-o3-truthfulness I doubt the model was trained on Street View, but even if it was, LLMs don’t retain any “memory” of how/when they were trained, so any element of truthfulness would be coincidental.
  - geysersam 1y ago
    If it's trained on street view data it's not unlikely that the model can associate a particular piece of context to street view. For example, a picture can have telltale signs that street view content has, such as blurred faces and street signs, watermarks, etc. Even if it's not directly trained on street view data it has probably encountered street view content in it's training dataset.
    - oezi 1y ago
      I think the test which the OP performed (to pick a random street view and let it pinpoint it) would indicate that it has ingested some kind of information in this regard in a structured manner.
    - namaria 1y ago
      The training process doesn't preserve information needed for the LLM to infer that. It cannot be anything other than nonsense that sounds plausible, which is what they do best.