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> My First Amendment rights include the right to associate with non-citizens. > Am I supposed to demand my friends' citizenship paperwork before going out to d
by koolba 2y ago
> My First Amendment rights include the right to associate with non-citizens.
> Am I supposed to demand my friends' citizenship paperwork before going out to dinner? Come the fuck on.
I have the right to go hang out with some drug dealers standing on a street corner too. But I can hardly complain if I get caught up in a sting.
- runako 2y agoThis train of logic rests heavily on the notion that one can look at a person and determine their citizenship.
- ceejayoz 2y ago> But I can hardly complain if I get caught up in a sting. You absolutely can, if there was no probable cause for your detention. Doubly so if you've presented your proof to a court and still can't get out of jail.
- legitster 2y agoIf one of your friends gets arrested for white collar crime, should you be thrown in jail for a few days too? This is a ridiculous line of reasoning.
- koolba 2y ago> If one of your friends gets arrested for white collar crime, should you be thrown in jail for a few days too? In that version you’re in the conference room as the white collar crime is happening, when the Feds come in to arrest everybody.
- BobaFloutist 2y agoBut instead of the crime being an action, it's an identity, so it's necessarily happening at all times.
- AlecSchueler 2y agoYou're thinking of the crime as being an undocumented migrant, where the crime takes place either at the point of migration without paperwork, or at the time after migration when the paperwork becomes invalidated. But the rhetoric used these days is that these people are "illegals" and their continued existence is a crime in itself.