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To your first point, conceded on further review, but it is unwise to host this on your corporate Github account edit: or a Github Pages account sharing a name w

To your first point, conceded on further review, but it is unwise to host this on your corporate Github account edit: or a Github Pages account sharing a name with your corporate entity. I would take it as a sign of good faith to see that change soon, which seems a trivial burden since personal hosting for Github Pages is also free. edit: No longer necessary in my view, though I still would recommend it; not everyone is as nice as me. To your second, see my first, above. Also, you opened your Show HN as: > Hi HN, here's something fun to play with. > It takes any HN thread and turns it into an audio conversation so you can listen to the thread while doing other things. > I've seen many previous attempts to turn HN threads into podcasts, but they all shared a common issue IMO: trying to reduce the very rich back-and-forth into a single-thread single-reader boring podcast. Instead, I wanted to hear the actual debate from the actual thread! I appreciate you believe yourself to have acted in good faith, and on further review I concede I made some hasty assumptions, based on the nature of your own representations, about the nature of this work, which led me to conclude more than appears to be warranted in fact. I know of no Tiktok thread, but infer from your mention of same I am not the only one who has reacted in a fashion which some could see fit to consider precipitous. Please consider the possibility that this is what a launch looks like in the moment when it is only going sideways, after the rocket has ceased going up but before it begins to succumb again to gravity's inexorable pull.

aerhardt 2y ago
> conceded on further review > I would take it as a sign of good faith to see that change soon Who are you, the district attorney around these parts?
- throwanem 2y ago
  Have you never seen this kind of conversation before? edit: Oh, sorry, never mind, I see the 'Extension' now.
sebastiennight 2y ago
> To your first point, conceded on further review, but it is unwise to host this on your corporate Github account. I would take it as a sign of good faith to see that change soon, which seems a trivial burden since personal hosting for Github Pages is also free. It's not a "corporate GitHub account", it's a throwaway github account I created a while ago because some app required a GitHub login to give me access. I have zero other repos there, are my company uses GitLab. > I appreciate you believe yourself to have acted in good faith, and on further review I concede I made some hasty assumptions, based on the nature of your own representations, about the nature of this work, which led me to conclude more than appears to be warranted in fact. No worries, everyone can be mistaken from time to time, especially in a written medium. > I know of no Tiktok thread, but infer from your mention of same I am not the only one who has reacted in a fashion which some could see fit to consider precipitous. You replied to me just earlier today, on a thread called "TikTok is harming children at an industrial scale" where I made a cheeky comment about AI-generated YouTube content: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43718657 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43718657 As an aside, I believe that AI should be used to enhance creation not replace it, which is why I built a video-editing agent (to help my customers who are experts or teachers who record themselves in real videos) and why we don't do avatar-style generative video. So I have some strong opinions about AI content (that are vastly different from other founders in the space) and enjoy debate about it. Threatening legal action might not be the most constructive tool for debate when you could find out that you're mostly in agreement with your counterpart's position... this is one of the things HN is good for.
- throwanem 2y ago
  Oh, that Tiktok thread, of course. Sorry, I inferred from your mention in the context here that you were hearing about someone else complaining on Tiktok, on similar grounds to mine. I threatened legal action when I believed you to be creating an unlicensed derivative work of my carefully considered original words, for the commercial purpose of promoting your business which I see functions in a way technically somewhat similar. I now understand that not to be the case, and for the sake of absolute clarity, I acknowledge that the cause for action I initially suspected is not in fact present, nor any other of which I'm aware, and I intend no further action of the sort I earlier described. Sorry to blow you up over it. The folks who understand me to be "unhinged" don't know what it actually looks like to see someone care about something in a way that requires courage, and I don't blame them for failing to recognize it, but I'm not so small a person I can't concede I overreacted somewhat here. That said, my voice - the way I use words, in text and in speech - has been the work of a lifetime, and to see that processed into AI-generated garbage may possibly be nothing I can eventually prevent but certainly is nothing I would intend to take lying down. I'm sure someone here will take these words as reason to use your tool to generate something they can try to bother me with, and I hereby disclaim any intent of pursuing action against you, Sébastien, or OneTake, on that basis, unless I come to believe at some future time that you were substantially involved. (I'm sure I won't!) I don't expect to be particularly bothered in such event, but do intend to see someone else be, and I would advise anyone against the attempt. I'm glad we had the opportunity to clear that up, and I look forward to following your further doings with the same favorable interest that's attended on our other conversation, and I hope now to some extent for both of us even at the end of this one, today.
  - sebastiennight 2y ago
    Apologies accepted, no hard feelings, glad we've cleared the misunderstanding :-)
    - throwanem 2y ago
      Likewise! Enjoy the balance of your day, hopefully much more than we both have the last hour or so :D

aerhardt 2y ago

> conceded on further review > I would take it as a sign of good faith to see that change soon Who are you, the district attorney around these parts?

throwanem 2y ago
Have you never seen this kind of conversation before? edit: Oh, sorry, never mind, I see the 'Extension' now.

sebastiennight 2y ago

> To your first point, conceded on further review, but it is unwise to host this on your corporate Github account. I would take it as a sign of good faith to see that change soon, which seems a trivial burden since personal hosting for Github Pages is also free. It's not a "corporate GitHub account", it's a throwaway github account I created a while ago because some app required a GitHub login to give me access. I have zero other repos there, are my company uses GitLab. > I appreciate you believe yourself to have acted in good faith, and on further review I concede I made some hasty assumptions, based on the nature of your own representations, about the nature of this work, which led me to conclude more than appears to be warranted in fact. No worries, everyone can be mistaken from time to time, especially in a written medium. > I know of no Tiktok thread, but infer from your mention of same I am not the only one who has reacted in a fashion which some could see fit to consider precipitous. You replied to me just earlier today, on a thread called "TikTok is harming children at an industrial scale" where I made a cheeky comment about AI-generated YouTube content: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43718657 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43718657 As an aside, I believe that AI should be used to enhance creation not replace it, which is why I built a video-editing agent (to help my customers who are experts or teachers who record themselves in real videos) and why we don't do avatar-style generative video. So I have some strong opinions about AI content (that are vastly different from other founders in the space) and enjoy debate about it. Threatening legal action might not be the most constructive tool for debate when you could find out that you're mostly in agreement with your counterpart's position... this is one of the things HN is good for.

throwanem 2y ago
Oh, that Tiktok thread, of course. Sorry, I inferred from your mention in the context here that you were hearing about someone else complaining on Tiktok, on similar grounds to mine. I threatened legal action when I believed you to be creating an unlicensed derivative work of my carefully considered original words, for the commercial purpose of promoting your business which I see functions in a way technically somewhat similar. I now understand that not to be the case, and for the sake of absolute clarity, I acknowledge that the cause for action I initially suspected is not in fact present, nor any other of which I'm aware, and I intend no further action of the sort I earlier described. Sorry to blow you up over it. The folks who understand me to be "unhinged" don't know what it actually looks like to see someone care about something in a way that requires courage, and I don't blame them for failing to recognize it, but I'm not so small a person I can't concede I overreacted somewhat here. That said, my voice - the way I use words, in text and in speech - has been the work of a lifetime, and to see that processed into AI-generated garbage may possibly be nothing I can eventually prevent but certainly is nothing I would intend to take lying down. I'm sure someone here will take these words as reason to use your tool to generate something they can try to bother me with, and I hereby disclaim any intent of pursuing action against you, Sébastien, or OneTake, on that basis, unless I come to believe at some future time that you were substantially involved. (I'm sure I won't!) I don't expect to be particularly bothered in such event, but do intend to see someone else be, and I would advise anyone against the attempt. I'm glad we had the opportunity to clear that up, and I look forward to following your further doings with the same favorable interest that's attended on our other conversation, and I hope now to some extent for both of us even at the end of this one, today.
- sebastiennight 2y ago
  Apologies accepted, no hard feelings, glad we've cleared the misunderstanding :-)
  - throwanem 2y ago
    Likewise! Enjoy the balance of your day, hopefully much more than we both have the last hour or so :D